Being Of Service | One Man's Journey

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Greetings and welcome to real
men.

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Feel this is your host, Andy
Grant.

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I'm an author coach speaker and
healer you can visit the and

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Grant.com to learn more about
that women.

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Feel is here to remind men that
they are human beings and that

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they are entitled and have the
right to feel and express and

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expand and share all of their
emotions, whatever you're

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feeling.
It's okay.

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We have the conversations that
most men aren't having but that

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all men can benefit from an in
this work and podcasting in my

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healing work.
I get to meet lots of That are,

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you know, doing their best to be
of service and help other men,

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help the world.
And that's why I'm talking to

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you tonight.
My guest today is healer coach,

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and men's group facilitator,
Justin Gagney, welcome to room

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and field.
Justin, thank you, thank you so

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much.
Thank you for having me,

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appreciate it.
It was glad to.

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If we stay, we just met like a
couple weeks ago, I think.

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Yeah, I think it's been two
weeks.

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She's money, that we've chatted
briefly a few times.

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So I feel like I've known you
longer than just two weeks, so

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it's exactly.
I know it's Was that way,

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definitely.
So the first thing I want to ask

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you is what prompted you to want
to create a men's group to begin

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with.
It came down to just being on my

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own really on the journey and
guys at work that was working

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with weren't really in that kind
of sense.

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You know, everyone was just
doing everyday grind and I just

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had so much on my mind to talk
about and I just wanted my

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fellow brothers to talk to, but
the guys I was around, were

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talking, you know, all they
really could honestly talk about

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football baseball.
You know, what was on the tube

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that night?
So, you know, I tried To dabble

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into a little bit and talk to
him but some most didn't really

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Vibe with it was okay.
So that this really is let me

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down to the road to find some
men and and to share our journey

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together.
So have you always been seeking

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that more depth than kind of the
average person on the street or

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is this kind of recent for you?
It's always been.

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Yes it's always been a look
searching for the depth that it

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was always something I could
find deeper.

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You know at first I didn't know
exactly what it was but there

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was something beckoning me to
find whatever that purpose was

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and yeah I've been searching for
it for a couple of years.

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Now I could say definitely
definitely been a thing.

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What sort of things did you
experience that?

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That let you decide that you
were kind of being called for.

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So like what were the?
What were the signs of your

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calling of this journey you
speak of For signs.

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It was honestly, it was like
during the pandemic was huge

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like as a kid I had, I was very
empathetic and everything and I

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was very open and I used to see,
you know, full operations and

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everything, but I just think
that like hauntings but when

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covid came around we all had to
like kind of stay home and you

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know no one was out in public
really.

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So we really had to focus on
ourselves and I basically was

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really working on myself too
because I was a recovering

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alcoholic for like 12 years.
And so, I really started

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focusing on being a better
version of me to, you know, heal

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myself.
Which I didn't know I was doing,

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but I was trying not to be angry
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And so I was just kind of trying
to process emotions.

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These are all these things are
coming through and when I

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started really feeling the
weight because I don't really

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watch, Stevie was trying to
seclude myself from like the

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outside world of all the chaos
that was going on, but I really

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felt everybody and empathically
like the world honestly, and

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that really opened the door for
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And I do remember meditating,
once in the beginning, trying to

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like, you know, keep the anger
down and frustrations.

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And I remember seeing a black
door open, like this one time

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when I was meditating, and that
really felt like I was opening

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the door to the spirituality.
Realm and to where I am today.

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Did you have a general sense of
being angry at everything or was

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there something specific that
you hadn't dealt with in the

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past?
What was?

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Yeah, it was it was more of
losing my mother and honestly

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when I lost my mom, I was just
she was getting an operation and

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she was a plus-size woman than
she needed this operation.

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She had cancer on her kidney And
so something she needed to be

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happened to right away.
So when that happened, she had

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actually the staple gun misfired
and hit her main artery.

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And so it was kind of a we did.
She was supposed to come out

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that day, so we didn't expect
that at all.

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So when that happened, that kind
of, I kind of had a salty,

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taste, my mouth for a long time
because you know, we weren't

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told what happens?
Truthfully and all that.

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So yeah, I was, I was pretty
angry.

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Well about that and I just
suppress it with who's that's

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that's basically what I did.
You know and and try to keep

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that anger a little monster, you
know down there for a while and

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not deal with it honestly.
But the scary thing that deal

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with and process that stuff you
know it's never fun thing.

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No and it's certainly not that
and it's funny because it's a

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horrible stat is like One of the
leading causes of death is

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Medical Care, 100% 100%.
So how long ago was that when

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did you lose your mom?
That was 12 years ago. 12 years

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ago actually last month seems
longer.

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But yeah, it was 12 years ago,
but going through this process

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of, you know, if you would call
it spiritual, awakening, our

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journey that we're onto, you
know, everyone's on the journey.

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I understand it now because I've
I've learned to address it and

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heal it and, you know, it's
always going to hurt but we keep

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peeling.
It's easier and softer.

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And so I've learned to kind of
understand why I guess one

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coming from.
Is I understand why it happened.

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So, I'm upset with situation
anymore because I know we all

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have like, so contract.
We all come in here and and we

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have this time period, that we
know we're going to be on earth.

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We as our 3D cells, don't know
that but when we come here to

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Earth as a soul, we do now.
So and I understand the

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situation now and yeah.
So I'm not so angry at anymore.

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It helps and was was there a
single turning point?

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Then that you realize that that
you did the drinking wasn't

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helping anything and you were
going to make a change?

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Yeah, yeah.
So I have learned that, you

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know, there's Darkness and Light
The world and I was met with a

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lot of Darkness you know
negative energies and all that.

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I at my you know mostly every
day and a lot of voices going

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on, you know like 10 like I want
to quit drinking but I keep

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hearing like drink drink drink,
you know.

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And that's myself saying that
you know my dark side, just kind

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of poking at it.
And you know I just kind of had

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to like Adventure through that
with a lot of hurt.

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Eels.
And yeah, that was its I would

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say not, it's not easy but once
you can work through it, it's a

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lot easier in the end.
You know.

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It's not a scary.
I guess I would say, you know.

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Yeah.
It was definitely a challenge.

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I would say definitely was.
We were able to work through

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anything while drinking.
Yeah.

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We did the healing only begin
kind of after that.

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Well as always see ya.
Sorry I was always trying to

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When I was working through it, I
knew I always had like a

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self-worth for myself so I
always had like the light almost

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the end of the tunnel and I was
like really close to it.

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I knew I should stop but I got
so deep into it and what helped

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me was a great breakthrough for
me is I had my guides which I

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didn't know at the time but I
used to have like a woman call

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my name out every morning.
Call like Justin, like, wake up,

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like, wake up and I thought was
like wake up bed bed but it's

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like wake up who you No, come
on, you're almost there and then

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I had a very Vivid, lucid dream
of my guy Derek and I've seen he

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came in the dream, I had like a
I live on Cape Cod and there was

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like a little kid thud magazine
for me.

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The show me, it was kind of
like, I don't know what that

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was, kind of like a dream to
show me that, you know, we're in

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a dream but you're still in Cape
Cod kind of thing.

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And so I had like a young girl
and a young boy and old.

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And when I saw them to I was
looking at him like this is not

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my family but it felt so real.
And so basically the way you

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looked at me telepathically and
said we are your family.

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So I kind of freaked out I went
outside and it was like, all I

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had was all snowy outside and
there was a deck with a dock

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going down to the water.
So I started going down there to

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kind of get away from people to
like, collect myself.

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I start sitting down and I see,
my are my guide are coming.

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He's like 7 foot tall.
He's walking to me.

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I'm sitting next to this pond
with like a little Violet flame

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kind of Vortex.
Sitting there.

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I didn't, I looked at him and I
knew his name.

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So obviously, I knew him and he
says, are you okay?

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And I'm like, I don't know.
Am I think?

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I don't know what's going on and
he looks at me, he goes, you

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wanted this, but you're not
ready.

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So when I had that when I had
that happen to me and I woke up

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That kind of woke me up because
I was like, what am I not ready

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for it?
That was the question.

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Like, who is this man?
What do I want?

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You know, I kind of knew what I
wanted and it was like getting

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out of drinking.
So he was basically telling me

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like you're not ready yet,
because you're still in the

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dark, but this is what you can
have, you know?

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So that really did help me.
That was very pivotal.

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And so, did you just decide one
day?

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Alright, I'm done drinking, or
did you need to go through a did

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a program help you out?
Or Yeah, so I've tried multiple

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times and I did a program once
and for people that do the

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program, I'm not knocking it at
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It's just something that didn't
work for me.

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I tried it and then Mason people
there.

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But that wasn't for me.
So I I I, I basically got

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honest, I'm not a church, he
person.

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But I went to the church one day
and I was still hammered.

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I went to a church, and I'm just
like on my hands and knees

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begging.
Please like somebody.

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Me like I can't get any lower
than this.

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Like I'm at the bottom of the
barrel.

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I'm on my hands and knees in a
church like hello.

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You know, and so then I had a
friend of mine that I haven't

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seen in years who's like a best
friend of mine in high school

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and I saw him his wife, and they
just had a Wonder old.

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So I started seeing them more
and they start showing me like

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that, I mattered.
So, that helped me a lot and

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gave me space and then they
bought a house in the said, hey,

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why don't you move in with us?
So you can have a place to be

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sober.
And so I started doing that

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working on that and just someone
showing the light to me and

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showing that I do matter and
someone caring that I actually

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show man, actually cares.
That I'm doing something bad to

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myself instead of just people,
letting you be, oh, that's just

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him, let him be him, you know,
just just upset, you know, so

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that's what kind of what ties in
with, like, helping guys and

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everything.
Is that showing someone that

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cares?
And to help you pick up and help

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you rise.
Is something amazing.

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It's pure medicine.
I wish more people realize this,

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but being of service helping
somebody helps you so much, but

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if that is not a one-way Street,
100% 100%.

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And that's because recently,
I've been saying to and posting

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up to a lot of people just, you
know, if you can help one

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person, like if I can help you
just say this, if I can pass on

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something to you and then you
can pass it on to two.

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To other people.
And then those two other people

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can pass it on the to now that's
for.

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And that's like, you know, it
multiplies.

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I multiply so I just the Ripple
effects.

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I think it's amazing, you know,
Shine Your Light for others.

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I just posted about like an hour
ago, you know, if someone's in

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darkness and you can shine and
be The Shining Light to them,

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that is huge.
Because by example of shining

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your light and your Darkness to
being too light, they can check.

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It shows them that they can
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So people ask like, what can I
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Simply just Just be that Shining
Light and that is huge that can

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just, you know, Jet Set someone
that's ready.

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Definitely helps earlier
mentioned that you were empathic

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as a kid.
Did you have any of these other

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kind of lucid dreaming and, and
recognition of guys, it was that

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something you experience as a
child?

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Yeah, I did.
So I won't keep caught.

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It's an island on in
Massachusetts and a lot of

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Native American And land here.
And so yeah, when I was a kid,

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there was a lot of I live in the
conservation, the backyard and

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had a lot of stuff back there.
But yeah, I had a lot of lucid

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dreaming is a child, but I just
I just cooked it up to be like

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nightmares, you know?
And just imagination as a child.

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And I used to see things in my
house, like but I had always

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like kind of the ego thing,
right?

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You're just like, oh, that's,
you know, that's just, that was

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just the light flickering or,
you know, I I had like one time

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I had a shadow on top met and I
thought was my father, when I

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turned the lights on and then he
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But I was just in, so no one was
in my room, but I just passed it

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off to be, you know, there was a
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So it looked like that, you
know, so you could do like a lot

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but knowing that that's not the
truth now.

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Yeah, why do lucid dreams
towards even with my mother?

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When she passed I had that
opened the door when I Younger,

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I was like, 20s 25.
When I was back at the house,

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that was that definitely was a
lot of lucid dreaming going on.

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Then a lot of empathic stuff to
feel my father, feel my brother,

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feel my grandma next door, you
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So if you're not grounded and
everything that really is a big

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thing too, if you're not
grounded and you're not taking

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care of yourself as an, impasse
is troublesome.

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And how aware of all that were
you as a child Exactly, because

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I've had some chances and I was
a mess as a kid.

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I oh yeah, I was a man.
I was a hot mess.

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I mean, you know, my mom brought
me to like doctors for ADD and

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then ADHD and all these things
and like, you know, and I was

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very hyper attic to because all
that was going on in the

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energies.
I was getting was just almost

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like having like, you know, five
cups of coffee because you're

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just like, you know, all over
the place, you know?

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Yeah, it definitely affected me.
But I think the add is not

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personally for my perspective as
they say a TD is not really what

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I think it is I kind of feel
with the add was yeah I wasn't

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paying attention but I'm
receiving so much so much

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information.
You know, it was almost like

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people thought I wasn't paying
attention but I was but I was

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also receiving from up the above
your you're paying attention to

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different things than their one
of you to pay attention to that.

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Yeah yeah exactly.
Yeah.

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And what about healing?
What got you into healing?

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Was it did you receive healing
seek healing with what got you

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into that field?
I've always felt like it's like

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the Blind and wine, the blinding
of what who I was.

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Like, I just didn't know who I
was like.

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I've always been like there for
everyone and trying to help

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others and listen to whoever's
at school that I don't know.

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That was like, you know, sitting
by and, like, crying or

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something like that.
So that's kind of that's that's

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a form of healing and just being
shining a light again being the

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like the next to someone is
healing.

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So my father is like an Earth
Angel.

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He's all.
We've always done like, you

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know, can drives and help kids
with like what they call that

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like for Salvation Army for like
Christmas and and we do a lot of

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CCD and church groups when I was
younger when I had to do those

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things.
But I just watched my Take care

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of people and be in service
going to nursing homes on his

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own.
Not being paid and like dementia

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patients and all that.
And I used to go with them and

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do stuff like that.
So just that alone, I was just

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blown away, you know, the see a
man be a different person and

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then change into like an Earth
Angel.

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As I've been told that he is in
this switch, his like mentality

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to like a totally different
person.

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Person and in have this pouring
heart to help people.

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And that was huge for me, I
thought that was amazing.

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So you think the something at
home like in day-to-day life,

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your dad was not that
open-hearted and of service.

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It was only when he went out.
Yeah, so yeah.

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So my dad, he is very gifted and
he doesn't know it.

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He's very, he's a very Church
oriented person so it doesn't

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mix, you know, he's very
Catholic.

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And set in his ways, and he just
doesn't see it the way I can see

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it.
So he's very empathic and he has

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all these, all the stuff that I
mean, he's my father, so, makes

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sense, right?
And, but yeah, so he's very

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nervous all the time because
he's feeling energy, and he's

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always like pacing and he's a
good earner.

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I was calling nervous Nelly, you
know, he's just a nervous Nelly,

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he's just like a, you know, like
a leaf blowing into the wind.

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So but when he's like talking to
these people, People he's not

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that nervous person.
He's a very grounded man is a

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very focused.
You know very attentive like

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everything else was washed away.
It's just that person trying to

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him and then you know it's
amazing.

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And so for me for healing Seeing
myself in the darkness that I

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was, I wanted to help others
Fast Track.

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So for me, the see, how much
struggle in torture, I put

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myself in that, that's the main
word, really that I did is

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tortured myself for so long was
a groundhog every day.

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So when I actually got to the
point where I could heal myself,

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sorry, what I could do, I was
like, oh I got to do this for

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everyone else.
Like, I don't want anyone else

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to do what I did.
I want to help people with

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grieving.
You know and get people on the

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right track wherever they may
be, if it's just a speck of sand

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that I can help that person than
I am happier than than ever to

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help that person you know makes
me very fills my heart for

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someone to just help them maybe
ground for that day and they can

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go home and sleep better.
That's that's that's big.

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And the last time we spoke, I
think you mentioned wanting to

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help men, send to her embrace
the Divine masculine So, I

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wonder, what, what can you
define Divine masculine.

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What does, what does that mean
to you?

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So actually, I really want two
men to embrace Divine, masculine

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and divine feminine.
So honestly, when men that are

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not really, when they're just
learning when they hear

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feminine, they're like, oh, like
no, I'm a man, you know, like,

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you know, I'm tough like and
it's like, you know, Yes you are

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but today we are everything's
demanding but the universe is

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demanding today especially for
men to have Divine masculine and

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divine feminine.
So masculine for me is for

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honestly, as I would say like
tough and strong but like with

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compassion with with, with love
We can be strong as we can be

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energetically as I look at
stuff.

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You know, we have energies
around us as healer, but if

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we're strong and tough, and
we're trying to push, like stuff

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down the hill, it's not going to
work, like we can do this in the

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3D world that we can't do this.
And in an energetic perspective,

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you know, we have to go with
Grace So feminine ties into

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because it helps us be graceful
as men.

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And honestly I was like say like
if you could You know, a lot of

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men that present of me front of
me that I work with, you know,

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the think they could pick a
truck up and they're like strong

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as anything.
You know, that's cool.

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But to me, I think a strong
masculine is that if they can,

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if they can actually heal
themselves first and then heal

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their family, then that is the
strongest in the world to me.

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I think that's amazing.
If you can do that, you know, if

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you can actually conquer
yourself and cocky or darkness

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and then take care of your
family and he'll everyone else.

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That's that's a strong.
Man right there.

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Yeah, I find it is a common
misperception that, you know,

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being a man means, you're only
masculine but masculine and

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feminine energy is in
everything.

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Malia's, yeah, 100% 100%.
You might have already talked

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about him, but let's see what,
what man had the biggest impact

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on your life.
Yeah.

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Style.
That would be my father.

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That would definitely be my dad.
He's an interesting one, you

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know, he's huge impact but he's
also showed me like he didn't

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have an easy life.
He had a, he was a chat children

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of eight and had like one
meatball for, like, the whole

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week.
Like, they were poor very poor.

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He had a very abusive father,
and then he had a stepfather was

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very abusive, both alcoholics
all that.

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So he swore to him himself as a
child, he would never lay a hand

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on his children, and he never
did do we?

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Come to the edge of like
frustration.

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Oh yeah.
I mean, what kid doesn't right?

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But yeah, look up to him.
I I looked at like, wow, that

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guy that can defeat all that,
right?

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Like getting beaten and having
not really great Father's to

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Starting his own business and
he's a master plumber and like,

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you know, providing for three
boys and a wife or a nice big,

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you know, hit like big house for
him, you know, we had great,

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great life, you know, very
affectionate family, very loving

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family.
So I was blessed, you know, the

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have that because I know there's
not many that do as my friends,

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at least I know, I don't have
that as a very affectionate and

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he taught me honestly, what
soft?

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Kind gentle men look like that.
He could be a strong masculine

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but he had very Divine and him
to feminine Divine in him.

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And to see that balance is why
who I am today?

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Does he know how much you have
gotten from him and look up to

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him?
I hope so.

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I do tell him, I do tell him
but, you know, that's all we

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only can receive what we want to
receive, you know, we can tell

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XY and z and if if you're up in
this is like a mirror for me to

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like I used to not receive like
compliments even though I was

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doing well.
So but I'm I don't do that

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anymore like but with him.
Yeah I think he does.

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I mean he sees me from how dark
I was like my mom wasn't so Me

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like that, it crushed my father
because it's his wife, but it

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crushed me because it was like
my best friend, soulmate,

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everything.
Like, you know, we were very

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connected, very connected.
So yeah, I definitely, I do

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think he's that because I'm just
not who I was before.

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You know, I was very recluse and
very tied to the bottle.

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So I do think he sees it.
What do you proud of Justin?

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I'm, you know, I'm proud of the
progress.

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I made my Pro I'm I'm I'm so
blessed and grateful everyday to

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know that I was in a dark deep
hole, very dark.

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So dark that there was all black
around me and I'm just proud

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that I did it on my own and and
I'm proud that I'm I'm taking

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these hurdles every day that
I'm, I'm still working on

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because it's an everyday process
is never easy.

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He gets a lighter right?
When we heal something and it

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comes back around in the cycle,
it's softer.

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So, yeah, I'm very proud of a
lot of stuff that I'm proud that

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like I can catch myself now.
Instead of playing the victim

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game, I'm like, whoa!
Wait, wait wait, you know,

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what's you know, this is what it
It is, but it's okay because you

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read is before, but it's just
that we know how to navigate it.

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Now we just might have to
navigate just a little bit to

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the left, figure it out the
second time.

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So yeah, I'm very proud for that
stuff because mentally I wasn't

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even there.
I was always, you know, used to

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call myself a horrible person
and you're disgusting and you

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deserve these things, you know,
looking in the mirror.

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So now I'm proud that I can say.
I love you, you're amazing.

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You know, you're full of light
and you know, I'm proud of you.

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Actually say I'm proud of
myself.

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It's kind of nice.
No.

441
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,800
And what are you looking forward
to?

442
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,700
What am I looking forward to?
Um, I would say I'm looking

443
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:21,000
forward to helping others,
really.

444
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:27,000
Honestly like that's that's my
mission is to help others move

445
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,300
in the right direction and just
being service is really truly,

446
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:36,200
from my heart is to be in
service, it fills my day, when I

447
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,200
help someone and they walk in
all nervous and they're just

448
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,000
like, you know, I have
everything on the table.

449
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,100
They want to talk about you just
sit there and listen to them and

450
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,400
then by the time they leave they
just they're full of energy and

451
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600
they're excited and they're
happy and they give you a big

452
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,500
hug.
That's that's huge.

453
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,000
So I look forward to that stuff.
How does someone know they're

454
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:04,700
headed in the right direction?
I only can speak for my like

455
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,000
self again.
I always like to say my

456
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,200
perspective because that's where
I'm coming from.

457
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:15,700
It's my knowing it's my practice
that I do.

458
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:19,700
I'm practicing every day.
So I know my right direction

459
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,100
because again it's just my
knowing I can't really explain

460
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,900
what knowing feels like for
anyone else but it just feels

461
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:30,300
true.
And it's very clear for me

462
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,800
because I'm not fighting
anymore.

463
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:36,700
I'm not fighting and trying to
go against the grain to where I

464
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:40,600
thought I should be.
You know, I listen to my guides.

465
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,400
I listen to myself.
Is this is big?

466
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,700
You know, I don't listen to my
ego.

467
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:54,600
I listen to my true higher self
and I observe You have to take a

468
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,400
few, you can't just like, jump
into it and go, you know, it's

469
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,800
calculated.
You have to kind of like sit

470
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,400
back and have a higher
perspective and actually focus

471
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,100
on where you're going, what
you're doing.

472
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,700
Instead of being like, honest,
you know, the fly because on the

473
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,000
Fly again, I used to do that and
it didn't work for me.

474
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,100
So now, being more aware, I can
see the Avenue.

475
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Sometimes, there's a fork in the
road, you can take, but I know

476
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,500
both are the Your action.
But which one do I want to take,

477
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:27,200
you know?
So which lesson do I want to

478
00:28:27,208 --> 00:28:29,700
learn?
Is it kind of that that a sense

479
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:32,800
of being in the flow and perhaps
synchronicities or, you know,

480
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,500
configure Necessities
synchronicities hundred percent.

481
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:39,100
I can't deny it.
Like so yesterday was this a

482
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:42,400
like this?
Like I'm like so I quit my job

483
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,300
last week because I'm done on
being on the grind and my soul

484
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:51,400
is just grinding into the earth
and its not aligning with me.

485
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:55,400
So I took action and that's
another thing that was a healing

486
00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:03,000
aspect for me is to have faith
within me and in what I'm

487
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,000
supposed to do.
And so synchronicities I walk by

488
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,500
this girl at Stop and Shop and
I'm giving out flyers for

489
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:15,500
clearing homes, do an energy
clearing for homes and then I

490
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,700
want to cross the other side of
the plaza and I go into the

491
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:21,900
place where my cat veterinarian
and she walks right out.

492
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,600
So I was like, excuse me.
I was like, I don't want to like

493
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,100
scare you, you know?
But I just want to give you a

494
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,200
flyer because this is a
synchronicity like there's you

495
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,800
can't deny someone walking by
you two times, you know, in

496
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,600
that, in this big Plaza.
So I just gave her one.

497
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,800
So I see a lot of those, I see a
lot of those things and I'm

498
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,900
focusing on who I'm seeing And
it is there anything you wish

499
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:51,400
you learned at a younger age?
No.

500
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:55,200
I would say no because then I
wouldn't be who I am today.

501
00:29:56,900 --> 00:30:00,200
So I would say, definitely not
because the lessons I was taught

502
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,300
is who I am today.
And I repeated that.

503
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,000
But that's just like, I wouldn't
go.

504
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200
I wouldn't change anything.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't change

505
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,200
anything.
That's not cool.

506
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,600
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I always advise people

507
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,500
and like your do I speak for my
experience because that the best

508
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,800
tedious is your experience.
Yes, and yes.

509
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,400
And yes.
Someone else's experience can

510
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,000
guide you and, you know, you
Attracted to it, and take some

511
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200
steps in that direction.
But ultimately, it's what you

512
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,200
do.
It's the actions, you take that

513
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,200
really determined.
Yeah, it is.

514
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Because if you're not, if you're
not listening to yourself, then

515
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,700
I kind of say what's the point
to me?

516
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,300
Because it's kind of like,
almost like an ego.

517
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,400
If you listen to everyone else,
it's kind of like an ego.

518
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,600
It kind of thing for me.
And for people out there that

519
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,300
use like Facebook, like, bless
you, like, you know, if that's

520
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:51,500
helping you, I love it but I
don't, you know, those things

521
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,000
they don't because then I get It
kind of like, for myself, I'm

522
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,300
like, am I doing this right?
You know, so I just always known

523
00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:00,500
that, that's best for what works
for me because there's no right

524
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:03,200
or wrong the way people do
things anyone.

525
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000
So, I just, that's a big thing
for people to know.

526
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:06,900
Like, you never doing anything
wrong.

527
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:10,900
Is there?
One thing you wish more men knew

528
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,700
besides that, I guess um, yeah,
take your time.

529
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,900
Like, you know, we're on this
journey.

530
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:21,800
It's not like it's coming.
We want things fast for human,

531
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:26,100
we Things quickly thing, you
know, it doesn't work that way

532
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:30,400
and so for example like I was
getting so much information

533
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,700
coming in to me and I was like,
wow, I'm actually good at

534
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:36,600
something and that's how it felt
cuz I'm I wasn't very good at

535
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,400
school studying.
It wasn't my thing so when I was

536
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,900
receiving everything I thought
was amazing.

537
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,300
So I was like keep coming.
Keep coming, keep pumping it,

538
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,400
you know and then it was like
breaks and I was at a suspension

539
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:56,200
mode healing and so I had sort
just come and tell me basically

540
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:03,900
like be at balak, stay likes it
respite relax and that was very

541
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:07,100
hard for me but that was a very
good lesson for me too because

542
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,500
we can't keep going so fast.
You know?

543
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:13,500
So we have to like know that
like when you hear guys say like

544
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,500
something's happening, it
doesn't mean today and you know

545
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:21,400
that we have to have On our time
because time doesn't matter

546
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,200
above, you know, time is not a
thing, you know, and abundance,

547
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200
that's another thing that people
keep hearing abundance,

548
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,200
abundance is not just money.
Abundance is love buttons, is

549
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,900
time like right now I have time
to do my things right now

550
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:37,600
because I'm not working and
grinding.

551
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,400
That's the abundance that I've
been told which actually a to

552
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,800
feathers.
I was talking to Jen there and

553
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,600
that's what she was telling me.
She's like, you know, it's time

554
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,700
as your bonnets right now.
So that's a huge thing because a

555
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,500
London's people think it's 3D,
they think that's straight money

556
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:54,400
so that's not such, it's not a
thing.

557
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:58,200
I mean, I mean it could be money
but not always, it is a thing

558
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,300
but it's not only that thing.
Yeah, yeah.

559
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,000
So Justin, how can people learn
more about you and connect with

560
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,800
you?
Yeah, so I'm on Facebook which

561
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,400
you just said, was horrible,
right?

562
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Well I mean like I'm on yeah I'm
on Facebook for like four.

563
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400
So like even YouTube like Like
that I would use YouTube for

564
00:33:20,408 --> 00:33:22,200
like things that are good for
me.

565
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,600
All right, so but I would
definitely say like I'm going to

566
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,000
figure out.
So I'm Facebook as a Facebook,

567
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,400
it's the saving light on
Facebook.

568
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,900
I think you have the link right
on the thing, but I'm also on

569
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,800
Instagram too.
So it's a, the saving light.

570
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,600
So it's just like the underscore
saving underscore light on

571
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:48,000
Facebook and on Tick-Tock
awesome was good to chat with

572
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,900
you.
Justin and thanks for having me,

573
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,400
learn more about about your
life, and your journey, your

574
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,200
Awakening, and your desire to
help and serve.

575
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,300
Because that, that's, that's
really what it's about it is,

576
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:04,400
that's what exactly.
Yeah, understand when it's not

577
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
the individual Journey, it's the
individual Journey can go a lot

578
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,500
better if you make it about
others.

579
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,400
Yeah.
I mean, because others, like, we

580
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,900
could be a teacher for someone
and then after that, that

581
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,100
cursed, same person phone, you
could be your teacher.

582
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,300
Which is Big.
So if someone starting off to I

583
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,800
think that's a big thing for
people to know, you know, when

584
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,000
you see someone helping you
don't be like oh man I can't do

585
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,900
what they do.
No that's not right.

586
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,500
Because I've had so many
experiences of teachers flipping

587
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:34,000
it to me being their teacher and
that's a fun experience.

588
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
So, yeah, have an open, heart
awesome.

589
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:39,400
Well again, thanks again.
Justin.

590
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,699
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