Real Men Feel with Andy Grant
Real Men Feel with Andy Grant
Real Men Feel helps men grow beyond outdated rules of masculinity to live with authenticity, purpose, and joy. Since 2016, host Andy Grant has explored how vulnerability, courage, and real conversation fuel personal growth, self-improvement, and emotional well-being. 🥇 Silver Signal Award Winner – Most Inspirational Podcast & Best Self-Help Show. 🎧 Join our free Skool community Authentic AF at https://realmenfeel.org/group 💬 Want to be a guest? Connect with Andy on PodMatch, https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/realmenfeel 🔗 Learn more about Andy at http://TheAndyGrant.com.
Oct. 16, 2026

Breaking The Silence of Depression and Discovering Purpose

Breaking The Silence of Depression and Discovering Purpose
Real Men Feel with Andy Grant
Breaking The Silence of Depression and Discovering Purpose

Neil Smith on Purpose, Men’s Communication, and the Mettle Mental Fitness App 🔥 Connect with other men who actually get it in Authentic AF:⁠https://realmenfeel.org/group⁠

Host Andy Grant interviews TV executive Neil Smith (The Apprentice, Grand Designs) about achieving outward success yet feeling empty, leading him to leave television and pursue purpose-driven work in men’s mental health. Neil shares hiding depression in his 20s for nearly a decade, the shame and fear of vulnerability, and a failed attempt to seek help after a dismissive doctor interaction. He argues the male mental health crisis is largely a communication crisis and that telling men to “talk” isn’t enough; support must meet men where they are.

Neil co-founded the men-focused mental fitness app Mettle with Bear Grylls to reduce stigma and friction through outcome-based tools and optional community, citing a user’s recovery from suicidality to renewed family and work life.

00:00 Career Peak Question
00:53 TV Success Story
04:12 Second Mountain Awakening
06:21 Meditation And Purpose
09:56 Hidden Depression Years
12:57 Shame And Asking Help
17:17 Tribe And Male Connection
19:40 WhatsApp Banter Trap
22:22 Building Mettle App
26:57 Bear Grylls Partnership
27:45 Beyond Help To Hope
31:07 Service And Grandfather
33:12 How To Find Mettle
33:42 Final Takeaway Tribe
34:32 Host Closing Reflection

CONNECT WITH NEIL & METTLE:
Mettle — https://bemettle.com/
Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/be.mettle
LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/neil-s-smith/

CONNECT WITH ANDY:
Coaching: https://TheAndyGrant.com/talk
Real Men Feel: https://RealMenFeel.org
Instagram: @realmenfeelshow and @theandygrant

ABOUT REAL MEN FEEL
Real Men Feel explores men's mental health, modern masculinity, relationships, purpose, authenticity and personal growth. Hosted by Andy Grant.

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