Beyond Psychedelics: Unveiling Self-Love & Ancient Wisdom

0:00 Hello and welcome to Real Men Feel. I'm your host, author, coach and healer, Andy Grant. Please visit theandygrant.com to learn more about me. Real Men Feel exists to remind men that they are human beings and they have the right to experience and express all of their emotions. We have conversations that most men are not having, but that all men can benefit from. My guest today is Seth Pearson. Seth is a guide and healer in the lineage of King Solomon, initiating those ready for a life of magic and empowerment into the ancient Mystery school traditions. I know Seth because we are both Gilas and Ritual masters in the modern Mystery School. Last week my guest was Matt Zeman who had a very pro psychedelics viewpoint and I knew Seth used to feel that same way, so I invited him on this week.

0:43 As sort of a counterpoint, Seth shares why he used psychedelics, what he got from them, and why he no longer recommends them. He shares the best path he's found to self love and knowing yourself as God and offers the one thing he wishes more men knew. Let's do it. Hello Seth, and welcome to Real Men Feel. Hey Addy, great to be here. So I'd seen you post something on Facebook about your your psychedelic use and the last episode which I know you haven't had a chance to listen to. I talked to someone that Matt Zeman who is very pro psychedelic use and has written many books on it. So let's start with what first got you interested in psychedelics. Yes.

1:24 So back in the day, I was interested in psychedelics because there were some people that were very adamant about it and had had a few experiences that they said were really helpful for them, kind of expanded their mind and gave them new perspectives on life. And after hearing about that and, you know, kind of struggling with anxiety, being curious of if there is more to this life than meets the eye or more than I knew about. And I, I wanted to have an experience like that, even though I was really scared of it. Though were you not a a a big drug user of any type before getting into psychedelics or?

2:14 Correct. Yeah. When I was growing up, I was very straight edge. I even got really angry at some friends that started smoking weed when I was around maybe like 14 or so. And I just kind of was like, I'm just how could you do that? No, and that was even one of the reasons why I became interested in psychedelics is because there was just one day I was so tired of being angry at my friends that were doing these things because they, you know, they kept saying it was, it was positive for them. And I just was so upset about that, that they needed something to escape reality.

2:56 And you know, after a lot of reflection, I was like, well, it's like, if this is making me so angry, I maybe want to at least have an experience that would potentially just lessen my anger towards them, have more understanding as to why they're doing that. So then, did you first do it more so to placate friends, or was it more of your curiosity? Or I guess it was it a combination of all those things? Great question. I would say the first round of substances, which was alcohol and weed, that was to dissipate the kind of like the anger and create an understanding of what a lot of people were experiencing.

3:41 And then from there, the next substance that I did was MDMA, and that was done because I was getting into the electronic dance music scene and I was starting to go to more festivals. And it was a sort of similar thing where I was like, wow, I foresee myself being really into this, you know, style of music for a long time, probably for my entire life. I want to at least like, know what there's like a lot of people that are experiencing around me. And then there was with the mixture of I, I'm hearing like really positive things like these, these were different than than drinking or weed.

4:32 People having like feeling this like sense of peace in life and a new way of looking at things that seem to last after the like, say, normally drinking and weed, there's like things that just wear off from people. And so that was kind of a big deal because it, it was me getting into kind of like a hard, like a harder drug, a hard substance trying it, you know, something that I would like never have imagined myself doing. So it's very, very out-of-the-box for me. What were your initial experiences like? What was it something you got value from? Did it? Did it live up to the hype? So with with drinking and weed, it was not it, it was not that great.

5:19 I would say for those experiences, though, the the first time that I did MDMA, like I, I must say that was probably one of the most, you know, over the course of my life in terms of like transformation. That was like a kind of a self initiatory experience. It's you know, we'll get into this, you know, more later. It's like because of the things that I know now and have experienced now, would I, if someone knew about the ancient healings and teachings that I and so many others offer, would I recommend that anyone do that now? No, no.

6:04 At the time, the best thing that I had to experience inner peace, have extreme empathy and love for myself and others and understanding that there is more to this life than MCI. That was that was the most profound experience of, you know, I was 20 years old when I did that and it basically put me on a path of, of seeking more. I was like, there has to be more. The path of more that that just mean more psychedelic usage? Or did it open you up to like, oh, there's got to be things even beyond this?

6:44 Right, Yeah, I would say more to this universe, to this, to this world. And yes, there was a after that moment, I did stare a lot about that experience. And obviously to this day, I still talk about it. There's even a video of me that first time on MDMA. It's Seth sets first time on ADV. You can look at on on YouTube. You know from the that moment on it wasn't that I was tied to that substance, even though I I talked about it a lot and it still has it had a profound effect on me, but I was like it's more of what the the realizations that I had well on it.

7:30 It wasn't like the substance. It was like the fact that I experienced and understood what inner peace was. It was the ability to love myself fully and others, see literally the best in other people and understand that. Just kind of like this, this feeling of unity, harmony, love towards my fellow man. Like knowing that no matter what they're, they're doing, how they're acting, they have good hearts underneath them. Like those were profound teachings. And if, you know, take the substance away, those teachings are profound.

8:12 And I and I know that there's a way to deliver that without substances now. So stay. You're 20, you've done it. You've had some amazing insights and experiences. How long did you continue to use psychedelics as part of your your personal growth? From that moment on, part of you know, me making that choice and doing that, I wanted to kind of almost like prove to the world that someone didn't have to keep doing those things to like take those types of realizations along with oneself throughout life. So I didn't do MDMA again for till about four years later, you know, and here I am talking about self Love's really important.

8:59 Yes, self love. This is great. Like, you know, love of other people love yourself amazing and you know dance music is great too. That's very sweet of me doing that for the next 4 years. I did get interested in other substances about two years later, so I was 22. I did psychedelic, you know, mushrooms, psilocybin mushrooms for the first time. And through that experience, I felt very connected to. I really wanted to sense and connection to nature itself. It was like MDMA. Yeah. I felt a sense of extreme connection to humanity and even a little bit of like, kind of like the celestial kind of galactic experience, but mushrooms.

9:47 I really wanted to get a like a feeling of connection to nature. So I did, I, I totally did have that experience. So that was, that was helpful. And then when I was 24, I was between 22 and 24, I had an extreme existential dread that came back that I had experienced when I was very young, actually, like 4 1/2, I had my first existential crisis and those feelings started to come back and I was having anxiety attacks about it, about like the fear of death and all this stuff. And so when I was 24, I made peace with my fear of death and made peace with the concept of Infinity slash eternity.

10:33 And that was using LSD and, you know, dabbled with other things here and there in between this time. So obviously, I was never doing things very consistently. Besides, between 2023, there was relatively consistent weed uses, weed usage, I would say no. 21 to 23, yeah. And then I did it go into the ayahuasca realm at 26 to 28. Those are kind of those are kind of wild. Those were, you know, in a sense helpful for me at the time.

11:15 It's like, oh, having fun kind of like visual journeys that are, you know, kind of part of my subconscious. But I feel like I didn't necessarily like gain any necessarily lasting insights when I think about it like that. So was your usage primarily personal growth fueled or was it sometimes just it's a party, it's a rave, Let's let's all take something? I would say probably 85 to 90% of my usage was personal growth based in the final years when I would do MDMA every like four to six months or so.

11:59 Sometimes they were, because there was like maybe a big dance event and I had a lot of friends going and I wanted to have a very like a super connected time with people. So there was, there was still intention with it. It wasn't just like, oh, I'm going, I'm going to a raid, but I'm going to take MDMA, which is weird because I, I do think there were a lot of people around me that had that mentality. And part of my like at that time, psychedelic advocacy was about having more intention behind those usage and not, you know, having just like using it as a recreational thing. And it was weird because, you know, I was facilitating psychedelic experiences for people and people knew that about me.

12:49 And yet there were still people around me where I was like, I was like, why? Why isn't this person gaining this insight that I had? Like, why isn't that happening for them? Why, you know, which again, as we'll talk about more later, LED into I was like, oh, just because people you don't use those things. You know, there's a good chance that as this is going to have the opposite effect and lead to something even worse than where they started potentially. And that I've I've found a system that works better for finding out and experiencing those types of realizations that I had. It it's funny you mentioned buying weed at 14.

13:30 So the only time in my life I bought weed was at 14. I was really depressed, pessimistic, suicidal kid. So that my favorite drug and I was I grew up pretty anti drug because I didn't like if you need something to escape this reality, just escape it totally. Like I was very militant about that in some ways. But I did like mushrooms because it just made me laugh and it just made everything was better. I just laughed. So I've, you know, high school, college, just just for fun. There was no personal growth in that though. That was not even, those were words in my vocabulary. I did not, you know, I was just trying to get by. And I've had one ayahuasca experience, which was fantastic. And I've never felt the need to chase it. It was so good.

14:15 I was like, well the odds of it being so good again are pretty. You know why I don't I I've never felt the need to to do it again. So do you currently use psychedelics? No, not at all. It's been, what is it word 2025? So it's been 3 1/2 years of no psychedelics. I, I completely put them down. I think it was June or July of 2021. And what prompted that decision? As I was, as I mentioned, a seeker of finding out the mysteries to this universe to having a really good life. Like what are the keys to having a really good life? OK, I found out about self love.

15:00 I found out the importance of seeing the best in every single person and knowing that deep down that the people are just like me, where I, I used to have a lot of anxiety and we're just afraid to just be myself around people and to be in my full expression. And that there was more that there was a way to have a good life without necessarily like, you know, using psychedelics. If there's a better tool than psychedelics, I was ready to put those things down. And so and January 2021, I was 27 years old, I got initiated into the lineage between Solomon as an adapt through the Empower Thyself class. And in those two days, there were so many concept talked about that that was put into words that I had never, you know, thought of saying before.

16:02 And there were like these kind of like universal keys that was like, yes, wow. If everyone, you know, fully embraced these types of teachings, then wow, we would be closer to World Peace. Because, you know, that's what I wanted to. I wanted to help the world on a love themselves so much that all of the world's problems melt away and we get to World Peace. And there were things in that class that I hadn't even considered before that I was like, why have I never heard about this? Why are there all these other spiritual teachings out in the world that don't get to this level of like, in a, in a sense, simplicity, but also extreme complexity is all after that initiation weekend, I was like, whoa, OK, this is this is wild.

16:52 And there's more. I was told about becoming a second step initiate, a Healer's Academy 1 initiate. And so six months later I went and did that. And during this time I, I still did ayahuasca one more time and MDMA one more time, becoming a first step in a second step. And so during that international program, Healer's Academy 5 day program with the Modern Mystery School, I had experienced an energetic frequency, you know, externally in the class and within myself that I had never experienced before.

17:36 I also did Galactic Activation one, which is 2 days of awesome teachings and an activation healing modality. And after that experience, the Galactic Activation, one Healers Academy, one I came back to my, you know, my, my usual normal life and my, my energy and my frequency was at a place I had never experienced before. And I knew at that point, I knew at that point that if I did any type of substance after that, it would lower my energy for sure. I was like, I knew it. I knew it deep down. And I was like, I'm not going back. Like I found the tool that this system, this system that I don't even fully understand yet that I know for a fact will lead people to living a better life, feeling the best possible and without psychedelic usage, without the the the dangers that people either acknowledge or do not acknowledge about the experience of psychedelics.

18:46 So we've met due to the Modern Mystery School and it's interesting, I was initiated into Modern Mystery School in 2016, the same year this podcast was created. And this podcast was created weeks after I received my life activation, which is kind of the first healing from the mystery School. So I feel funny asking this. So what is the modern mystery school? For the modern mystery school, think of it like the business vehicle for delivering the ancient mystery school traditions. This is part of the seven Ancient Mystery School tradition.

19:26 This is a hermetic lineage. Hermetics is teaching the the mind of God. And basically, if someone you know doesn't the word God doesn't work for someone yet, you know, basically think of it like hermetics, the best way to live the best life. Just think of it like that. If and and if someone is still having a hard time whenever I use the word God, think of the word kindness instead. How about that? I used to not really fully embrace the word God. I loved myself and I wanted to learn the base to love myself the most because if I love myself the most, then I that I could love other people better.

20:14 And so now I love myself as God, and so I can love other people as God in the modern mystery school, this ancient lineage dating back over 3500 years, as I said. This lineage is the lineage of King Solomon. He was an epic healer, an amazing alchemist, an expert of Kabbalah and all sorts of ancient metaphysical cult arts. And this is where a lot of people have trouble. Is like true miracles from magic are available to us all and through this lineage, there's an actual pathway of empowerment of healing. And as you said, it start with it starts with the life activation initiation.

21:16 It's like an amazing, like, unbelievably wonderful life is available to all. And like, I can't even imagine going back to the life that I was living before this. And yeah, I want to, I want to hear your question because yeah, there's just so much. Yeah. Does the Mystery School have a position on psychedelic use? I would say there's, it's like there's no necessarily say good or bad, though we do share about the dangers of using psychedelics. And the dangers are the damage that is done to our energetic structures.

22:02 So I was thinking about this before jumping on the podcast. Is this thing that I used to read back when I was doing psychedelics, is there would be more and more research coming out or like, wow, yeah, science is finally showing that psychedelics are really good for the the brain, the nervous system, the whatever, whatever in that showing that wow, these drugs have been classified as the worst drugs. But look, they're not that bad for the body. So there's like a lot of substances where they're technically not too hard on the body, but some substances are really hard on the body. So like the ones that they say that aren't hard on the body is like LSD.

22:43 Some that they say that are hard on the body is cocaine. The crazy part about and kind of like the really cool thing about metaphysics and like, you know, hermetics in this ancient lineage is that the system that's that whole system gives people the understanding of why a certain substance wouldn't hurt your body too much. But your energetic body, your, your spirit, your soul, your aura, the damage that it can do, why it why it hurts that and maybe not your physical body. So like, well, what I'll talk about, you know, more especially in empower myself talking about our energetic structure is that, yeah, a lot of substances do a lot of harm to to our auras.

23:31 And then maybe people don't feel that necessarily right away, but over time it'll it'll definitely, you know, show up and not great ways. I mean, people, some people have a hard time acknowledging this even to the state. But like smoking a lot of weed, like you're going to go crazy, you know, like, like there's a good chance that someone is going to their mind is going to be, I don't know, like, yeah, it'll change your mind. But like, is it actually for the better? Is there anything in your saying like experiences and be at the community, anything in that world that you miss? Well, one of the things that I did, you know, is I, I've been to a a ton of electronic music search shows over my life in festivals.

24:28 And I mean, the majority of those experiences I was, I was sober. So what's cool is I still very much enjoy that. That's like a true like passion of mine and a joy. So I still get to enjoy those things. Do I miss the lake ayahuasca weekends? No. Do I miss the the parties where there's like, I don't know, kind of like casual psychedelic usage or something like that? No, I mean it's it's weird when I now experience such inner peace and joy at all times before I like I had a certain level of that before, but it like it's nowhere near it is now. So I can't even say like when I'm on, it's like when I was on MDMA, like there's still aspects of that. There was an illusion that I was that I was in and and so like I don't, I don't miss that.

25:29 I don't think so Andy. Like I don't I've thought about this before too, and it's like I really have to like work towards it. The only thing that's, you know, kind of a little bit of a, a challenge these days is that there's certain people that have known me over these years of being like such a, a proponent of psychedelics. And then it's weird because like when, sometimes when I've noticed that when people change, people see that as like a bad thing. And so like someone to feel, Oh, is that you used to be really into psychedelics and now you're, you know, you study in a mystery school and you don't do that anymore. Like someone's like mind controlling you, you know, like someone has like I've seen that kind of energy from people and maybe they take that as a hard, a negative thing. And so that's like, it's been like a stressor on my relationships.

26:26 But The thing is, it's like I'm more myself than I ever have been in my life. And if someone has a hard time with that, especially a friend, I'm like, well, you guys, this is just me. So I hope I'm, I hope you just love me for me and myself. And so that's, I think that's a, there's a bit of an integration with that. And psychedelics are gaining more mainstream acceptance for for therapy and personal growth. What kind of what? What's your top concern about that? Or what do you think people are misunderstanding? I would say something that I want people to do in this life, as I mentioned before, is like loving themselves is God.

27:08 And I think that the substances become people's God. And it it, it kind of like, I think it, I think it kind of was for me. Like, I do think that that was that was a thing to a certain sense because I thought that I needed those things to have what I was looking for. And now I know that is not the case, though you know, I, I am in no way denying the the kind of like revelations that I experienced on those substances. Have you had experience with Holotropic Breathwork ever? I have, yes.

27:51 Yeah, I did that. I did that a bunch for a while. I never had super crazy profound experiences on that. That was never my, I mean, I had friends that were like professional facilitators of that. And like, I, I don't know, I just ended up being in circles where people are like screaming around me and I'm like, OK, I'm not having that experience. What are you doing? I'm like, I'm like, I feel like this is some sort of like negative aspect of someone's ego just coming out. I like, I don't know, I'm trying not to be judgmental, but I will make fun of what's happening here. So yeah, yeah. I just think that there's there's people are going to like kind of damage their energy structures and like kind of take on illusionary ideas and then become used like feel like habits around that.

28:46 And then I don't know, it's hard to get out of that realm. Like I think I'm very, I know there's a lot of people that in this lineage that have gone out of using those substances fully. And I just think the more that it's like accepted and like, oh, this is a good thing. Like it's like certain states, like I, I live in Colorado, I lived in Washington. One of those were some of the first states that like, yeah, weed was just legalized. And it's just like, man, so many people smoke weed. And like I'd it's just once someone creates the habit of that, like it's, it's just, it's, I think it's hard for people to let that go.

29:32 And like, I've, I have understanding, I have compassion. I was there myself. I, I smoked weed from 21 to 23 to help, like help with my sleep. Would I ever do that again? No way. No way. So I think it makes it harder for people to, you know, kind of like actually understand that the substance isn't the thing, but that it's, it's themselves. They can steal themselves. Yeah. Yeah, right. Like as they do research on on psychedelics, you know, oh, it activates this part of the brain. It makes this area light up. And what I found through the mystery school as well is that no, we, we don't need the substance. You can light that up. You can activate different aspects of you, you know, organically. And then you know, yeah, you, you are the God running that show as opposed to some outside substance, as you said. But what I love about I love holotropic breath work. I've had amazing experiences.

30:29 And what blew my mind was I'm not doing anything except taking an oxygen. And I always thought, boy, if we taught this to kids, like drug use would just plummet 'cause my first breathwork experience was like a stereotypical acid trip. I was like, it was just crazy. And I was like flying through the universe and, you know, eating colors and, and seeing texture, just just crazy multi sensory thing. And, and I, I, I loved it, but it, it cracked me open for healing in a way that I'd never done before. Like it, it was dramatic. I was highs and lows during this 2 1/2 hour session. And I probably and I wrote a book about it because I wanted to share like I'd never heard of this. So I like I I've done it like 10 times each time different each time, healing each time.

31:15 Just whatever I needed is what was what came to the forefront. But but yeah, so a big fan of that. I haven't done it in a while. Most of my use was pre mystery school, but but yeah, I still, I still recommend that to people that are seeking because again, it's an it's, it's an experience without a substance, which is what I what I like about it. Totally. Well, that's cool. That's awesome. Seth, you have a podcast, right? I do. It's called Love Ant with Seth Pearson. Yeah. And one more thing. I was, I have to say one more thing that's that's just coming to mind is like another like difference about the, the mystery school and the healing through that experience versus psychedelics is like when I get a healing session from someone that's, you know, a healer in this lineage. And it's like when I talk about loving oneself as God, it's like, oh, I'm inviting another God into my life to help heal me versus I'm saying plants heal everything and I will worship you.

32:21 Thank you. You know, that's that's that's something that I that I really appreciate about the lineage and is an interest, a different concept that I took in when I was, you know, first learning about these ancient ways and OK love amped with Seth Pearson. I started that podcast after two major events in my life. My mother committed suicide in 2017. And I was, I think I was 25. Yeah, I think I was, yeah, I was 25 at that time. So that was a pretty big, pretty big moment. And I knew at that time that I wanted to like, I really need to help people like I needed to. I was in software.

33:07 I was in game development, virtual reality, augmented reality software. And I, I had my own company in Seattle and we were working with the Space Needle, the UK government. We had all these projects, you know, it was fine, but it wasn't like truly what I was here to do. And so I started with healing conversations with people. And so I had the idea for the podcast a few months after that. I got the name of the business, Love Amps around the same time. And I was in my first relationship after my mom passed away.

33:47 And that was kind of short lived. It was only about 5 months. And something that I realized it is I was trying to like I was trying to help the woman that I was with like find self love. And I was seeing what was happening in relationship when I'm dating someone that doesn't love themselves. And I was like wow, OK I'm I am doing this all wrong. I just need to help people that are having a hard time loving themselves and then be in a relationship with someone that has a certain proficiency level of self life now. Unfortunately I did make that mistake a second time though. That is what's fun love.

34:28 Damn. But I started with just my friends and talking about concepts that I was learning about self love at the time because I was like, whoa, I haven't really talked about this with many people. And like I'm discovering, damn, people are having a hard time laughing themselves. This is brutal. And then I eventually like expanded to like more, a little bit more experts in the field or people that were also like on a really good trajectory with like serving other people and helping them like one-on-one. And then it, you know, it became this self love coaching business eventually, which happened literally 2 weeks after I got my life activation through the modern mystery school, which I didn't even, I wasn't even planning on that happening. It just like, oh, it's time for me to quit my job and start my business full on.

35:16 Yeah. I've, I've got to ask about the, the loss of your mom and did, did that affect your, your drug use? Did did it increase or decrease as a result of losing your mom? At that point, I, I was on this drug called Accutane for acne medication. I truly do not recommend 100%. Oh my gosh, the sexual side effects I experienced. I'm like still healing from this day. It's, it's bad. It's not good though. On Accutane, they recommend that you don't drink at all. And so at that time, you know, I wasn't that interested in alcohol anyways.

35:58 So I wasn't, I didn't drink. I was like, oh, this is great. A reason to not drink at all. Awesome. Fantastic. I, yeah, I, you know, I'd quit weed for many years at that point. I still did MDMA every like four to six months. And that was when I, I about six months after she passed, I think I did ayahuasca for the first time. So it didn't, it was already, I was whatever trajectory of substance use I was on, it was just already kind of there. I would say, yeah. So I didn't go into any like major spiral, which I'm really grateful for.

36:40 I, I have to tell the story When I found out my mom, you know, died basically is I, I, you know, got the call from my dad and I was like, wow, OK, this changes everything. Holy crap, this is nuts. Dang pay up the phone and I sit there with myself for like 5 minutes before I like start telling people and talking to people and I go OK Seth So what do people usually do in this situation? Oh, they usually row in their own lives. OK you're not going to do that. Great excellent. What else are you not going to do?

37:20 Oh, you're not going to play the what if game? Like what if I could have, you know, done this and it's like, yeah, OK, I can do that. I don't need to play the what if game. Great. Boom. I made like a contract with myself. It had two parts and then that was it, You know, So that's I think one of the reasons why I didn't end up like, you know, going into this spiral of like self loathing or like, you know, drug use spikes and all that stuff. Yeah. Well, that that's to me sounds like an amazing level of self-awareness and discipline. And so, you know, good. Good for you. Yeah. I imagined. Oh, there's this grief fueled rampage of, of, of mescaline daily.

38:02 Or, you know. But not that I'm a mescaline, just always walking onto the desert, just like I'm gone like Fosse. No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, it was crazy because like there was, I think like a week later there was like the, I don't know, celebration of life memorial thing back at my hometown. And I remember I was just like, in a sense I was like, so OK, I was holding space for like everyone there. And I'm not trying to like say that as some like, wow, I was so strong. But it was just I I was very surprised because I was like, OK, yeah. This probably isn't the normal experience like that people have after this type of thing happens. I'm like, whoa, people are like breaking down around me and I'm like, yo, like, it's going to be OK. Like, I love you and, you know, my mom's going to be OK. Like, I know, I know it's tragic and like, you know, yeah. Surreal.

38:58 And very surreal, of course, even to this day, very surreal. So I just want to summarize or bring it back and and really nail give you the opportunity to nail one point that despite your prior really sometimes positive experiences with psychedelics, you don't recommend them to people today. Correct. Not at all, because if someone has heard my voice and knows my name. Seth Pearson love amp.com then you. There is no reason for someone if they are truly seeking a better life, seeking more peace, inner peace, love of themselves and others, finding understanding of this universe, greater understanding of the why you're here, what you're doing, your purpose, your passions, what is true joy.

39:49 Guess what? Too bad you already found me out. So like this is a better path then psychedelics 100%, I guarantee it. I like wow, like I use the word guarantee. I'm telling you, it's not going to be necessarily easy. Like yeah, maybe those drugs, they're going to give you a temporary relief. Like that's I get that. Like I totally get that. But lasting, true transformational change, it's available to you and I do not recommend that. Through psychedelics, I recommend that through hermetics, ancient mystery school teachings, initiation, life activation, habala.

40:31 Oh man, there's so many things. And and if they know you through this podcast, they should probably already know. Like there's other ways. So. And no judgement. I got no judgement. People in it, I really don't. Right, yeah, we've all like, I don't recommend my path to someone, but it's what got me here. And just like you don't recommend your path to someone, but it's what got you here. So yeah, every, every slowly everything can work. But yeah, the mistakes I've made in the past and and others can make is to keep returning to something that hasn't brought you benefits but you keep doing it anyway 'cause you don't know better or or you won't let yourself see possible better, right? Cool.

41:12 On top of everything you just shared, what's one thing you wish more men knew? Oh my gosh, I just, I. I wish men knew their worst because I didn't know how I'm worth. Yeah, that's great. So what's the best way for people to find out what everything you're up to Seth and and discover the podcast? Yes, I am on loveamped.com. That's my website. I am also love Amped Seth Seth on basically every platform Instagram X. You can find me on YouTube fun little videos there. I I just want people to to reach out if they are truly, you know, looking for a better life.

41:58 I'm available. I want to help people live their best lives and to love themselves fully and be authentic and all of their interactions and like actually have the most aligned life possible. And it's so, it's so available. Whoever's listening to this right now, it's like it's so possible for you like and gosh darn it, let's do it. Well, thanks for being with us here today, Seth. Thanks for sharing so much about yourself and your past and how everyone can make their their present reality their best reality. Thanks for joining us everyone. Please visit realmenfeel.org. See the blog post for this episode.

42:39 We'll have all the various links and resources discussed. Wherever you're discovering real men feel, please subscribe, follow, like, share this episode with someone, post a review or comment. And if you feel compelled to create your best life, it starts with a life activation and it continues with and empower thyself weekend through the modern Mystery school. This work can only be done in person, so if you're in Massachusetts, reach out to me. If you're in Colorado, where Seth is, reach out to him. And if you're anywhere else in the world, feel free to still reach out to me. I'm glad to play matchmaker and get you in touch with a practitioner near you that can help you. Again, live your best life, love yourself to the fullest, and have a magnificent experience being a human being. Until next time, be good to yourself.