Beyond Psychedelics: Unveiling Self-Love & Ancient Wisdom

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Hello and welcome to Real Men
Feel.

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I'm your host, author, coach and
healer, Andy Grant.

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Please visit theandygrant.com to
learn more about me.

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Real Men Feel exists to remind
men that they are human beings

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and they have the right to
experience and express all of

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their emotions.
We have conversations that most

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men are not having, but that all
men can benefit from.

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My guest today is Seth Pearson.
Seth is a guide and healer in

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the lineage of King Solomon,
initiating those ready for a

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life of magic and empowerment
into the ancient Mystery school

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traditions.
I know Seth because we are both

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Gilas and Ritual masters in the
modern Mystery School.

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Last week my guest was Matt
Zeman who had a very pro

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psychedelics viewpoint and I
knew Seth used to feel that same

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way, so I invited him on this
week.

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As sort of a counterpoint, Seth
shares why he used psychedelics,

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what he got from them, and why
he no longer recommends them.

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He shares the best path he's
found to self love and knowing

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yourself as God and offers the
one thing he wishes more men

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knew.
Let's do it.

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Hello Seth, and welcome to Real
Men Feel.

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Hey Addy, great to be here.
So I'd seen you post something

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on Facebook about your your
psychedelic use and the last

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episode which I know you haven't
had a chance to listen to.

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I talked to someone that Matt
Zeman who is very pro

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psychedelic use and has written
many books on it.

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So let's start with what first
got you interested in

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psychedelics.
Yes.

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So back in the day, I was
interested in psychedelics

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because there were some people
that were very adamant about it

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and had had a few experiences
that they said were really

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helpful for them, kind of
expanded their mind and gave

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them new perspectives on life.
And after hearing about that

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and, you know, kind of
struggling with anxiety, being

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curious of if there is more to
this life than meets the eye or

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more than I knew about.
And I, I wanted to have an

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experience like that, even
though I was really scared of

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it.
Though were you not a a a big

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drug user of any type before
getting into psychedelics or?

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Correct.
Yeah.

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When I was growing up, I was
very straight edge.

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I even got really angry at some
friends that started smoking

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weed when I was around maybe
like 14 or so.

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And I just kind of was like, I'm
just how could you do that?

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No, and that was even one of the
reasons why I became interested

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in psychedelics is because there
was just one day I was so tired

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of being angry at my friends
that were doing these things

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because they, you know, they
kept saying it was, it was

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positive for them.
And I just was so upset about

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that, that they needed something
to escape reality.

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And you know, after a lot of
reflection, I was like, well,

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it's like, if this is making me
so angry, I maybe want to at

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least have an experience that
would potentially just lessen my

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anger towards them, have more
understanding as to why they're

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doing that.
So then, did you first do it

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more so to placate friends, or
was it more of your curiosity?

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Or I guess it was it a
combination of all those things?

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Great question.
I would say the first round of

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substances, which was alcohol
and weed, that was to dissipate

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the kind of like the anger and
create an understanding of what

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a lot of people were
experiencing.

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And then from there, the next
substance that I did was MDMA,

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and that was done because I was
getting into the electronic

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dance music scene and I was
starting to go to more

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festivals.
And it was a sort of similar

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thing where I was like, wow, I
foresee myself being really into

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this, you know, style of music
for a long time, probably for my

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entire life.
I want to at least like, know

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what there's like a lot of
people that are experiencing

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around me.
And then there was with the

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mixture of I, I'm hearing like
really positive things like

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these, these were different than
than drinking or weed.

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People having like feeling this
like sense of peace in life and

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a new way of looking at things
that seem to last after the

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like, say, normally drinking and
weed, there's like things that

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just wear off from people.
And so that was kind of a big

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deal because it, it was me
getting into kind of like a

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hard, like a harder drug, a hard
substance trying it, you know,

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something that I would like
never have imagined myself

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doing.
So it's very, very

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out-of-the-box for me.
What were your initial

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experiences like?
What was it something you got

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value from?
Did it?

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Did it live up to the hype?
So with with drinking and weed,

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it was not it, it was not that
great.

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I would say for those
experiences, though, the the

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first time that I did MDMA, like
I, I must say that was probably

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one of the most, you know, over
the course of my life in terms

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of like transformation.
That was like a kind of a self

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initiatory experience.
It's you know, we'll get into

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this, you know, more later.
It's like because of the things

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that I know now and have
experienced now, would I, if

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someone knew about the ancient
healings and teachings that I

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and so many others offer, would
I recommend that anyone do that

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now?
No, no.

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At the time, the best thing that
I had to experience inner peace,

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have extreme empathy and love
for myself and others and

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understanding that there is more
to this life than MCI.

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That was that was the most
profound experience of, you

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know, I was 20 years old when I
did that and it basically put me

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on a path of, of seeking more.
I was like, there has to be

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more.
The path of more that that just

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mean more psychedelic usage?
Or did it open you up to like,

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oh, there's got to be things
even beyond this?

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Right, Yeah, I would say more to
this universe, to this, to this

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world.
And yes, there was a after that

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moment, I did stare a lot about
that experience.

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And obviously to this day, I
still talk about it.

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There's even a video of me that
first time on MDMA.

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It's Seth sets first time on
ADV.

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You can look at on on YouTube.
You know from the that moment on

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it wasn't that I was tied to
that substance, even though I I

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talked about it a lot and it
still has it had a profound

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effect on me, but I was like
it's more of what the the

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realizations that I had well on
it.

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It wasn't like the substance.
It was like the fact that I

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experienced and understood what
inner peace was.

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It was the ability to love
myself fully and others, see

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literally the best in other
people and understand that.

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Just kind of like this, this
feeling of unity, harmony, love

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towards my fellow man.
Like knowing that no matter what

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they're, they're doing, how
they're acting, they have good

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hearts underneath them.
Like those were profound

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teachings.
And if, you know, take the

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substance away, those teachings
are profound.

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And I and I know that there's a
way to deliver that without

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substances now.
So stay.

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You're 20, you've done it.
You've had some amazing insights

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and experiences.
How long did you continue to use

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psychedelics as part of your
your personal growth?

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From that moment on, part of you
know, me making that choice and

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doing that, I wanted to kind of
almost like prove to the world

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that someone didn't have to keep
doing those things to like take

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those types of realizations
along with oneself throughout

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life.
So I didn't do MDMA again for

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till about four years later, you
know, and here I am talking

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about self Love's really
important.

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Yes, self love.
This is great.

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Like, you know, love of other
people love yourself amazing and

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you know dance music is great
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That's very sweet of me doing
that for the next 4 years.

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I did get interested in other
substances about two years

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later, so I was 22.
I did psychedelic, you know,

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mushrooms, psilocybin mushrooms
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And through that experience, I
felt very connected to.

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I really wanted to sense and
connection to nature itself.

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It was like MDMA.
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I felt a sense of extreme
connection to humanity and even

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a little bit of like, kind of
like the celestial kind of

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galactic experience, but
mushrooms.

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I really wanted to get a like a
feeling of connection to nature.

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So I did, I, I totally did have
that experience.

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So that was, that was helpful.
And then when I was 24, I was

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between 22 and 24, I had an
extreme existential dread that

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came back that I had experienced
when I was very young, actually,

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like 4 1/2, I had my first
existential crisis and those

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feelings started to come back
and I was having anxiety attacks

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about it, about like the fear of
death and all this stuff.

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And so when I was 24, I made
peace with my fear of death and

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made peace with the concept of
Infinity slash eternity.

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And that was using LSD and, you
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here and there in between this
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So obviously, I was never doing
things very consistently.

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Besides, between 2023, there was
relatively consistent weed uses,

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weed usage, I would say no. 21
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And then I did it go into the
ayahuasca realm at 26 to 28.

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Those are kind of those are kind
of wild.

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Those were, you know, in a sense
helpful for me at the time.

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It's like, oh, having fun kind
of like visual journeys that

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are, you know, kind of part of
my subconscious.

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But I feel like I didn't
necessarily like gain any

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necessarily lasting insights
when I think about it like that.

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So was your usage primarily
personal growth fueled or was it

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sometimes just it's a party,
it's a rave, Let's let's all

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take something?
I would say probably 85 to 90%

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of my usage was personal growth
based in the final years when I

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would do MDMA every like four to
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Sometimes they were, because
there was like maybe a big dance

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event and I had a lot of friends
going and I wanted to have a

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very like a super connected time
with people.

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So there was, there was still
intention with it.

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It wasn't just like, oh, I'm
going, I'm going to a raid, but

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I'm going to take MDMA, which is
weird because I, I do think

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there were a lot of people
around me that had that

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mentality.
And part of my like at that

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time, psychedelic advocacy was
about having more intention

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behind those usage and not, you
know, having just like using it

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as a recreational thing.
And it was weird because, you

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know, I was facilitating
psychedelic experiences for

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people and people knew that
about me.

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And yet there were still people
around me where I was like, I

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was like, why?
Why isn't this person gaining

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this insight that I had?
Like, why isn't that happening

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for them?
Why, you know, which again, as

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we'll talk about more later, LED
into I was like, oh, just

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because people you don't use
those things.

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You know, there's a good chance
that as this is going to have

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the opposite effect and lead to
something even worse than where

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they started potentially.
And that I've I've found a

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system that works better for
finding out and experiencing

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those types of realizations that
I had.

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It it's funny you mentioned
buying weed at 14.

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So the only time in my life I
bought weed was at 14.

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I was really depressed,
pessimistic, suicidal kid.

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So that my favorite drug and I
was I grew up pretty anti drug

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because I didn't like if you
need something to escape this

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reality, just escape it totally.
Like I was very militant about

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that in some ways.
But I did like mushrooms because

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it just made me laugh and it
just made everything was better.

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I just laughed.
So I've, you know, high school,

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college, just just for fun.
There was no personal growth in

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that though.
That was not even, those were

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words in my vocabulary.
I did not, you know, I was just

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trying to get by.
And I've had one ayahuasca

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experience, which was fantastic.
And I've never felt the need to

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chase it.
It was so good.

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I was like, well the odds of it
being so good again are pretty.

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You know why I don't I I've
never felt the need to to do it

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again.
So do you currently use

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psychedelics?
No, not at all.

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It's been, what is it word 2025?
So it's been 3 1/2 years of no

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psychedelics.
I, I completely put them down.

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I think it was June or July of
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And what prompted that decision?
As I was, as I mentioned, a

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seeker of finding out the
mysteries to this universe to

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having a really good life.
Like what are the keys to having

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a really good life?
OK, I found out about self love.

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I found out the importance of
seeing the best in every single

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person and knowing that deep
down that the people are just

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like me, where I, I used to have
a lot of anxiety and we're just

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afraid to just be myself around
people and to be in my full

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expression.
And that there was more that

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there was a way to have a good
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you know, using psychedelics.
If there's a better tool than

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psychedelics, I was ready to put
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And so and January 2021, I was
27 years old, I got initiated

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into the lineage between Solomon
as an adapt through the Empower

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Thyself class.
And in those two days, there

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were so many concept talked
about that that was put into

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words that I had never, you
know, thought of saying before.

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And there were like these kind
of like universal keys that was

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like, yes, wow.
If everyone, you know, fully

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embraced these types of
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closer to World Peace.
Because, you know, that's what I

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wanted to.
I wanted to help the world on a

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love themselves so much that all
of the world's problems melt

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away and we get to World Peace.
And there were things in that

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class that I hadn't even
considered before that I was

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like, why have I never heard
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Why are there all these other
spiritual teachings out in the

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world that don't get to this
level of like, in a, in a sense,

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simplicity, but also extreme
complexity is all after that

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initiation weekend, I was like,
whoa, OK, this is this is wild.

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And there's more.
I was told about becoming a

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second step initiate, a Healer's
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And so six months later I went
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And during this time I, I still
did ayahuasca one more time and

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MDMA one more time, becoming a
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And so during that international
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program with the Modern Mystery
School, I had experienced an

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energetic frequency, you know,
externally in the class and

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within myself that I had never
experienced before.

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I also did Galactic Activation
one, which is 2 days of awesome

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teachings and an activation
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And after that experience, the
Galactic Activation, one Healers

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Academy, one I came back to my,
you know, my, my usual normal

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life and my, my energy and my
frequency was at a place I had

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never experienced before.
And I knew at that point, I knew

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at that point that if I did any
type of substance after that, it

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would lower my energy for sure.
I was like, I knew it.

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I knew it deep down.
And I was like, I'm not going

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back.
Like I found the tool that this

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system, this system that I don't
even fully understand yet that I

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know for a fact will lead people
to living a better life, feeling

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the best possible and without
psychedelic usage, without the

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the the dangers that people
either acknowledge or do not

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acknowledge about the experience
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So we've met due to the Modern
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interesting, I was initiated
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2016, the same year this podcast
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And this podcast was created
weeks after I received my life

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activation, which is kind of the
first healing from the mystery

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School.
So I feel funny asking this.

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So what is the modern mystery
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For the modern mystery school,
think of it like the business

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vehicle for delivering the
ancient mystery school

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traditions.
This is part of the seven

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Ancient Mystery School
tradition.

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This is a hermetic lineage.
Hermetics is teaching the the

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mind of God.
And basically, if someone you

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know doesn't the word God
doesn't work for someone yet,

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you know, basically think of it
like hermetics, the best way to

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live the best life.
Just think of it like that.

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If and and if someone is still
having a hard time whenever I

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use the word God, think of the
word kindness instead.

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How about that?
I used to not really fully

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embrace the word God.
I loved myself and I wanted to

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learn the base to love myself
the most because if I love

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myself the most, then I that I
could love other people better.

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And so now I love myself as God,
and so I can love other people

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as God in the modern mystery
school, this ancient lineage

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dating back over 3500 years, as
I said.

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This lineage is the lineage of
King Solomon.

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He was an epic healer, an
amazing alchemist, an expert of

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Kabbalah and all sorts of
ancient metaphysical cult arts.

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And this is where a lot of
people have trouble.

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Is like true miracles from magic
are available to us all and

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through this lineage, there's an
actual pathway of empowerment of

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healing.
And as you said, it start with

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it starts with the life
activation initiation.

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It's like an amazing, like,
unbelievably wonderful life is

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available to all.
And like, I can't even imagine

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going back to the life that I
was living before this.

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And yeah, I want to, I want to
hear your question because yeah,

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there's just so much.
Yeah.

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Does the Mystery School have a
position on psychedelic use?

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I would say there's, it's like
there's no necessarily say good

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or bad, though we do share about
the dangers of using

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psychedelics.
And the dangers are the damage

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that is done to our energetic
structures.

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So I was thinking about this
before jumping on the podcast.

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Is this thing that I used to
read back when I was doing

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psychedelics, is there would be
more and more research coming

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out or like, wow, yeah, science
is finally showing that

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psychedelics are really good for
the the brain, the nervous

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system, the whatever, whatever
in that showing that wow, these

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drugs have been classified as
the worst drugs.

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But look, they're not that bad
for the body.

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So there's like a lot of
substances where they're

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technically not too hard on the
body, but some substances are

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really hard on the body.
So like the ones that they say

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that aren't hard on the body is
like LSD.

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Some that they say that are hard
on the body is cocaine.

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The crazy part about and kind of
like the really cool thing about

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metaphysics and like, you know,
hermetics in this ancient

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lineage is that the system
that's that whole system gives

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people the understanding of why
a certain substance wouldn't

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hurt your body too much.
But your energetic body, your,

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your spirit, your soul, your
aura, the damage that it can do,

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why it why it hurts that and
maybe not your physical body.

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So like, well, what I'll talk
about, you know, more especially

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in empower myself talking about
our energetic structure is that,

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yeah, a lot of substances do a
lot of harm to to our auras.

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And then maybe people don't feel
that necessarily right away, but

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over time it'll it'll
definitely, you know, show up

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and not great ways.
I mean, people, some people have

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a hard time acknowledging this
even to the state.

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But like smoking a lot of weed,
like you're going to go crazy,

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you know, like, like there's a
good chance that someone is

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going to their mind is going to
be, I don't know, like, yeah,

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it'll change your mind.
But like, is it actually for the

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better?
Is there anything in your saying

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like experiences and be at the
community, anything in that

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world that you miss?
Well, one of the things that I

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did, you know, is I, I've been
to a a ton of electronic music

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search shows over my life in
festivals.

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And I mean, the majority of
those experiences I was, I was

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sober.
So what's cool is I still very

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much enjoy that.
That's like a true like passion

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of mine and a joy.
So I still get to enjoy those

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things.
Do I miss the lake ayahuasca

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weekends?
No.

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Do I miss the the parties where
there's like, I don't know, kind

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of like casual psychedelic usage
or something like that?

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No, I mean it's it's weird when
I now experience such inner

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peace and joy at all times
before I like I had a certain

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level of that before, but it
like it's nowhere near it is

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now.
So I can't even say like when

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I'm on, it's like when I was on
MDMA, like there's still aspects

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of that.
There was an illusion that I was

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that I was in and and so like I
don't, I don't miss that.

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I don't think so Andy.
Like I don't I've thought about

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this before too, and it's like I
really have to like work towards

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it.
The only thing that's, you know,

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kind of a little bit of a, a
challenge these days is that

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there's certain people that have
known me over these years of

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being like such a, a proponent
of psychedelics.

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And then it's weird because like
when, sometimes when I've

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noticed that when people change,
people see that as like a bad

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thing.
And so like someone to feel, Oh,

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is that you used to be really
into psychedelics and now

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you're, you know, you study in a
mystery school and you don't do

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that anymore.
Like someone's like mind

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controlling you, you know, like
someone has like I've seen that

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kind of energy from people and
maybe they take that as a hard,

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a negative thing.
And so that's like, it's been

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like a stressor on my
relationships.

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But The thing is, it's like I'm
more myself than I ever have

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been in my life.
And if someone has a hard time

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with that, especially a friend,
I'm like, well, you guys, this

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is just me.
So I hope I'm, I hope you just

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love me for me and myself.
And so that's, I think that's a,

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there's a bit of an integration
with that.

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And psychedelics are gaining
more mainstream acceptance for

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for therapy and personal growth.
What kind of what?

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What's your top concern about
that?

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Or what do you think people are
misunderstanding?

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I would say something that I
want people to do in this life,

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as I mentioned before, is like
loving themselves is God.

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And I think that the substances
become people's God.

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And it it, it kind of like, I
think it, I think it kind of was

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for me.
Like, I do think that that was

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that was a thing to a certain
sense because I thought that I

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needed those things to have what
I was looking for.

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And now I know that is not the
case, though you know, I, I am

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in no way denying the the kind
of like revelations that I

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experienced on those substances.
Have you had experience with

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Holotropic Breathwork ever?
I have, yes.

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Yeah, I did that.
I did that a bunch for a while.

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I never had super crazy profound
experiences on that.

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That was never my, I mean, I had
friends that were like

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professional facilitators of
that.

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And like, I, I don't know, I
just ended up being in circles

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where people are like screaming
around me and I'm like, OK, I'm

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not having that experience.
What are you doing?

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I'm like, I'm like, I feel like
this is some sort of like

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negative aspect of someone's ego
just coming out.

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I like, I don't know, I'm trying
not to be judgmental, but I will

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make fun of what's happening
here.

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So yeah, yeah.
I just think that there's

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there's people are going to like
kind of damage their energy

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structures and like kind of take
on illusionary ideas and then

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become used like feel like
habits around that.

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And then I don't know, it's hard
to get out of that realm.

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Like I think I'm very, I know
there's a lot of people that in

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this lineage that have gone out
of using those substances fully.

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And I just think the more that
it's like accepted and like, oh,

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this is a good thing.
Like it's like certain states,

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like I, I live in Colorado, I
lived in Washington.

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One of those were some of the
first states that like, yeah,

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weed was just legalized.
And it's just like, man, so many

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people smoke weed.
And like I'd it's just once

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someone creates the habit of
that, like it's, it's just,

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it's, I think it's hard for
people to let that go.

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And like, I've, I have
understanding, I have

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compassion.
I was there myself.

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I, I smoked weed from 21 to 23
to help, like help with my

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sleep.
Would I ever do that again?

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No way.
No way.

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So I think it makes it harder
for people to, you know, kind of

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like actually understand that
the substance isn't the thing,

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but that it's, it's themselves.
They can steal themselves.

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Yeah.
Yeah, right.

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Like as they do research on on
psychedelics, you know, oh, it

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activates this part of the
brain.

446
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,960
It makes this area light up.
And what I found through the

447
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,120
mystery school as well is that
no, we, we don't need the

448
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,560
substance.
You can light that up.

449
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840
You can activate different
aspects of you, you know,

450
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,080
organically.
And then you know, yeah, you,

451
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,400
you are the God running that
show as opposed to some outside

452
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,480
substance, as you said.
But what I love about I love

453
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,880
holotropic breath work.
I've had amazing experiences.

454
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680
And what blew my mind was I'm
not doing anything except taking

455
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920
an oxygen.
And I always thought, boy, if we

456
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,240
taught this to kids, like drug
use would just plummet 'cause my

457
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,400
first breathwork experience was
like a stereotypical acid trip.

458
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,160
I was like, it was just crazy.
And I was like flying through

459
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,480
the universe and, you know,
eating colors and, and seeing

460
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,400
texture, just just crazy multi
sensory thing.

461
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,160
And, and I, I, I loved it, but
it, it cracked me open for

462
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,360
healing in a way that I'd never
done before.

463
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Like it, it was dramatic.
I was highs and lows during this

464
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,920
2 1/2 hour session.
And I probably and I wrote a

465
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,120
book about it because I wanted
to share like I'd never heard of

466
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,160
this.
So I like I I've done it like 10

467
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,800
times each time different each
time, healing each time.

468
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,280
Just whatever I needed is what
was what came to the forefront.

469
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,720
But but yeah, so a big fan of
that.

470
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,080
I haven't done it in a while.
Most of my use was pre mystery

471
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,920
school, but but yeah, I still, I
still recommend that to people

472
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,440
that are seeking because again,
it's an it's, it's an experience

473
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,080
without a substance, which is
what I what I like about it.

474
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,000
Totally.
Well, that's cool.

475
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680
That's awesome.
Seth, you have a podcast, right?

476
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,080
I do.
It's called Love Ant with Seth

477
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,360
Pearson.
Yeah.

478
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,520
And one more thing.
I was, I have to say one more

479
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,160
thing that's that's just coming
to mind is like another like

480
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,200
difference about the, the
mystery school and the healing

481
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,080
through that experience versus
psychedelics is like when I get

482
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,640
a healing session from someone
that's, you know, a healer in

483
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120
this lineage.
And it's like when I talk about

484
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,960
loving oneself as God, it's
like, oh, I'm inviting another

485
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:17,760
God into my life to help heal me
versus I'm saying plants heal

486
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,520
everything and I will worship
you.

487
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,120
Thank you.
You know, that's that's that's

488
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,960
something that I that I really
appreciate about the lineage and

489
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,160
is an interest, a different
concept that I took in when I

490
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:39,200
was, you know, first learning
about these ancient ways and OK

491
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,080
love amped with Seth Pearson.
I started that podcast after two

492
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,520
major events in my life.
My mother committed suicide in

493
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,640
2017.
And I was, I think I was 25.

494
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,760
Yeah, I think I was, yeah, I was
25 at that time.

495
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,960
So that was a pretty big, pretty
big moment.

496
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,960
And I knew at that time that I
wanted to like, I really need to

497
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
help people like I needed to.
I was in software.

498
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,360
I was in game development,
virtual reality, augmented

499
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,640
reality software.
And I, I had my own company in

500
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,560
Seattle and we were working with
the Space Needle, the UK

501
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600
government.
We had all these projects, you

502
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,360
know, it was fine, but it wasn't
like truly what I was here to

503
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,960
do.
And so I started with healing

504
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,880
conversations with people.
And so I had the idea for the

505
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:40,240
podcast a few months after that.
I got the name of the business,

506
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Love Amps around the same time.
And I was in my first

507
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,640
relationship after my mom passed
away.

508
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,680
And that was kind of short
lived.

509
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,120
It was only about 5 months.
And something that I realized it

510
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,280
is I was trying to like I was
trying to help the woman that I

511
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,520
was with like find self love.
And I was seeing what was

512
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,520
happening in relationship when
I'm dating someone that doesn't

513
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,600
love themselves.
And I was like wow, OK I'm I am

514
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,600
doing this all wrong.
I just need to help people that

515
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,120
are having a hard time loving
themselves and then be in a

516
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,880
relationship with someone that
has a certain proficiency level

517
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,360
of self life now.
Unfortunately I did make that

518
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,320
mistake a second time though.
That is what's fun love.

519
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,679
Damn.
But I started with just my

520
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,159
friends and talking about
concepts that I was learning

521
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,719
about self love at the time
because I was like, whoa, I

522
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,800
haven't really talked about this
with many people.

523
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,760
And like I'm discovering, damn,
people are having a hard time

524
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,560
laughing themselves.
This is brutal.

525
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520
And then I eventually like
expanded to like more, a little

526
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,360
bit more experts in the field or
people that were also like on a

527
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,199
really good trajectory with like
serving other people and helping

528
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:58,400
them like one-on-one.
And then it, you know, it became

529
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,120
this self love coaching business
eventually, which happened

530
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,400
literally 2 weeks after I got my
life activation through the

531
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,720
modern mystery school, which I
didn't even, I wasn't even

532
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080
planning on that happening.
It just like, oh, it's time for

533
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,720
me to quit my job and start my
business full on.

534
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,520
Yeah.
I've, I've got to ask about the,

535
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:25,160
the loss of your mom and did,
did that affect your, your drug

536
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,880
use?
Did did it increase or decrease

537
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:33,400
as a result of losing your mom?
At that point, I, I was on this

538
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,560
drug called Accutane for acne
medication.

539
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,720
I truly do not recommend 100%.
Oh my gosh, the sexual side

540
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,960
effects I experienced.
I'm like still healing from this

541
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,880
day.
It's, it's bad.

542
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,920
It's not good though.
On Accutane, they recommend that

543
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,200
you don't drink at all.
And so at that time, you know, I

544
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,920
wasn't that interested in
alcohol anyways.

545
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,800
So I wasn't, I didn't drink.
I was like, oh, this is great.

546
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,920
A reason to not drink at all.
Awesome.

547
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,840
Fantastic.
I, yeah, I, you know, I'd quit

548
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,720
weed for many years at that
point.

549
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,640
I still did MDMA every like four
to six months.

550
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:25,080
And that was when I, I about six
months after she passed, I think

551
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,480
I did ayahuasca for the first
time.

552
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,760
So it didn't, it was already, I
was whatever trajectory of

553
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,600
substance use I was on, it was
just already kind of there.

554
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,960
I would say, yeah.
So I didn't go into any like

555
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,760
major spiral, which I'm really
grateful for.

556
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:46,200
I, I have to tell the story When
I found out my mom, you know,

557
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,480
died basically is I, I, you
know, got the call from my dad

558
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,800
and I was like, wow, OK, this
changes everything.

559
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,480
Holy crap, this is nuts.
Dang pay up the phone and I sit

560
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,040
there with myself for like 5
minutes before I like start

561
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,760
telling people and talking to
people and I go OK Seth So what

562
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,000
do people usually do in this
situation?

563
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Oh, they usually row in their
own lives.

564
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,720
OK you're not going to do that.
Great excellent.

565
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,120
What else are you not going to
do?

566
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,480
Oh, you're not going to play the
what if game?

567
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,680
Like what if I could have, you
know, done this and it's like,

568
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,600
yeah, OK, I can do that.
I don't need to play the what if

569
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,240
game.
Great.

570
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,360
Boom.
I made like a contract with

571
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,600
myself.
It had two parts and then that

572
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,640
was it, You know, So that's I
think one of the reasons why I

573
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,680
didn't end up like, you know,
going into this spiral of like

574
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:48,000
self loathing or like, you know,
drug use spikes and all that

575
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,400
stuff.
Yeah.

576
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Well, that that's to me sounds
like an amazing level of

577
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,720
self-awareness and discipline.
And so, you know, good.

578
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,400
Good for you.
Yeah.

579
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,040
I imagined.
Oh, there's this grief fueled

580
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
rampage of, of, of mescaline
daily.

581
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Or, you know.
But not that I'm a mescaline,

582
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,440
just always walking onto the
desert, just like I'm gone like

583
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Fosse.
No, not at all.

584
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,800
Not at all.
I mean, it was crazy because

585
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,680
like there was, I think like a
week later there was like the, I

586
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,200
don't know, celebration of life
memorial thing back at my

587
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200
hometown.
And I remember I was just like,

588
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,280
in a sense I was like, so OK, I
was holding space for like

589
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160
everyone there.
And I'm not trying to like say

590
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,680
that as some like, wow, I was so
strong.

591
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,840
But it was just I I was very
surprised because I was like,

592
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200
OK, yeah.
This probably isn't the normal

593
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,840
experience like that people have
after this type of thing

594
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,640
happens.
I'm like, whoa, people are like

595
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,600
breaking down around me and I'm
like, yo, like, it's going to be

596
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,360
OK.
Like, I love you and, you know,

597
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,880
my mom's going to be OK.
Like, I know, I know it's tragic

598
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,440
and like, you know, yeah.
Surreal.

599
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,920
And very surreal, of course,
even to this day, very surreal.

600
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,800
So I just want to summarize or
bring it back and and really

601
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,040
nail give you the opportunity to
nail one point that despite your

602
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,840
prior really sometimes positive
experiences with psychedelics,

603
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,000
you don't recommend them to
people today.

604
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Correct.
Not at all, because if someone

605
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,080
has heard my voice and knows my
name.

606
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,120
Seth Pearson love amp.com then
you.

607
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,880
There is no reason for someone
if they are truly seeking a

608
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,040
better life, seeking more peace,
inner peace, love of themselves

609
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,360
and others, finding
understanding of this universe,

610
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,600
greater understanding of the why
you're here, what you're doing,

611
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
your purpose, your passions,
what is true joy.

612
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Guess what?
Too bad you already found me

613
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120
out.
So like this is a better path

614
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,280
then psychedelics 100%, I
guarantee it.

615
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,000
I like wow, like I use the word
guarantee.

616
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,680
I'm telling you, it's not going
to be necessarily easy.

617
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,800
Like yeah, maybe those drugs,
they're going to give you a

618
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,800
temporary relief.
Like that's I get that.

619
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,080
Like I totally get that.
But lasting, true

620
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,600
transformational change, it's
available to you and I do not

621
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,600
recommend that.
Through psychedelics, I

622
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,400
recommend that through
hermetics, ancient mystery

623
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,320
school teachings, initiation,
life activation, habala.

624
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,440
Oh man, there's so many things.
And and if they know you through

625
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,760
this podcast, they should
probably already know.

626
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Like there's other ways.
So.

627
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,000
And no judgement.
I got no judgement.

628
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,320
People in it, I really don't.
Right, yeah, we've all like, I

629
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,320
don't recommend my path to
someone, but it's what got me

630
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,400
here.
And just like you don't

631
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,320
recommend your path to someone,
but it's what got you here.

632
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,720
So yeah, every, every slowly
everything can work.

633
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,840
But yeah, the mistakes I've made
in the past and and others can

634
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,480
make is to keep returning to
something that hasn't brought

635
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,800
you benefits but you keep doing
it anyway 'cause you don't know

636
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,120
better or or you won't let
yourself see possible better,

637
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,320
right?
Cool.

638
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
On top of everything you just
shared, what's one thing you

639
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,680
wish more men knew?
Oh my gosh, I just, I.

640
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,480
I wish men knew their worst
because I didn't know how I'm

641
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,800
worth.
Yeah, that's great.

642
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,320
So what's the best way for
people to find out what

643
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,040
everything you're up to Seth and
and discover the podcast?

644
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,200
Yes, I am on loveamped.com.
That's my website.

645
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:44,400
I am also love Amped Seth Seth
on basically every platform

646
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,560
Instagram X.
You can find me on YouTube fun

647
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,640
little videos there.
I I just want people to to reach

648
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,680
out if they are truly, you know,
looking for a better life.

649
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:02,080
I'm available.
I want to help people live their

650
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,200
best lives and to love
themselves fully and be

651
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,840
authentic and all of their
interactions and like actually

652
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,680
have the most aligned life
possible.

653
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,120
And it's so, it's so available.
Whoever's listening to this

654
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,200
right now, it's like it's so
possible for you like and gosh

655
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:23,560
darn it, let's do it.
Well, thanks for being with us

656
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,240
here today, Seth.
Thanks for sharing so much about

657
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:31,600
yourself and your past and how
everyone can make their their

658
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,600
present reality their best
reality.

659
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Thanks for joining us everyone.
Please visit realmenfeel.org.

660
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,320
See the blog post for this
episode.

661
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,280
We'll have all the various links
and resources discussed.

662
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,880
Wherever you're discovering real
men feel, please subscribe,

663
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,880
follow, like, share this episode
with someone, post a review or

664
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,480
comment.
And if you feel compelled to

665
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,640
create your best life, it starts
with a life activation and it

666
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,560
continues with and empower
thyself weekend through the

667
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,440
modern Mystery school.
This work can only be done in

668
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480
person, so if you're in
Massachusetts, reach out to me.

669
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,360
If you're in Colorado, where
Seth is, reach out to him.

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And if you're anywhere else in
the world, feel free to still

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reach out to me.
I'm glad to play matchmaker and

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get you in touch with a
practitioner near you that can

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help you.
Again, live your best life, love

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yourself to the fullest, and
have a magnificent experience

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being a human being.
Until next time, be good to

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yourself.