Coming Out of the Spiritual Closet

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Hello, we are now live and
recorded.

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My name is Annie Greer, oncome
to.

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Welcome someone like Astro.
Welcome to real name feel

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joining me.
As always is my friend and

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co-host.
I'll be a hunter.

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Hello there.
How are you today?

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RPO fantastic.
We're getting hammered by very

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late winter storm right now so
it feels good to be inside where

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it's nice and cozy.
You don't have to be out driving

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or anything.
So Yeah, life is great.

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Cool.
We have in Massachusetts and you

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know yesterday was the first
full day of spring.

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So of course we've had, you
know, like eight inches of snow.

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Yeah, of course, no better way
to celebrate, right?

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Yeah.
We're good.

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It's really been a low.
We haven't had much time at all

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this year after getting hammered
the last couple of years.

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So it was actually nice, it's
already, it's already gone

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already melted.
Because if that happens a lot

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there, other used Coast here out
in like in the West in the

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Rockies.
It tends to linger a bit.

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You know, I feel like we should
be queuing up.

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It's Raining Men, right?
Whether so again, welcome to

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real men, feel.
My name is Andy Grant, and this

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is really a space for Athena.
And whoever joins us to chat

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about The notion that a real man
today is a man that is allowed

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to feel allowed to feel
everything.

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Whatever is going on in for you,
whatever.

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Going for p those around, you
know, emotions are off-limits.

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No emotions are just for you and
some are just women.

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It's not like that at all.
We think you're allowed to be

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authentic and vulnerable and
feel whatever is going on for

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you.
And we're going to talk for

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about 20 to 30 minutes.
We meet every Tuesday live at

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5:00 p.m. here on blab and our
seats are open.

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If anyone wants to join in and
really be seeing and take part

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that way.
We So you're also welcome to

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join us with the chat messages
asking questions, sharing your

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feedback today.
We are exploring stepping out of

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the spiritual closet.
And to me being spiritual is

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different from being religious,
and being spiritual can be

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anything from, you know, reading
your first personal growth book,

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meditating really anything from
that from, like, for me, that's

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where it started.
I think meditation and reading

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personal growth, wanting more,
but anything that helps you to

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realize decide awakened to the
fact that you're not just a bag

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of meat.
So, Apia what kind of was the

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was the first kind of spiritual
step in your life.

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I would say that my spirit, my
first spiritual step was, in

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fact, getting rid of the
religiosity in my life.

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It was a coming to a recognition
that the religion that I had

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grown up with that had been
formed so much, a part of my

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identity was really no longer
serving me.

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It was no longer bringing me the
joy that I had come to expect.

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And that At that, I wanted from
being religious and like you, I

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defined spear being spiritual as
being something.

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Very distinct as being from
being religious.

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Now, there are many people who
see the two as one of the same

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and their definition.
When you talk to them, makes a

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lot of sense that for them being
religious is synonymous with

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being spiritual, but when you
probe further, yeah, it is.

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But, like, you and me, and our
experiences, and I think the

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experiences of many Particularly
in Western Society, the equate

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religion with being dogmatic
judgmental exclusionary and

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everything else.
Whereas being spiritual, I call,

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spiritual being connected to
something that you realize know

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and understand is much greater
than yourself being connected.

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To not only your higher self,
but to all of the aspects of the

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universe that Or what a however
you want to Define it.

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God that's I'm I'm good with
that term as well, that is

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greater than the physical you
this bag of meat as he put it.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Because for some people yeah,
you can be religious and

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spiritual but some people can be
religious in the sense that

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well, I went to church every
Sunday and I sit there and wait

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for it to be over and I go.
And so you can be religious and

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not spiritual at all.
You can be kind of just blindly

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following something, but you can
also be very Your child have a

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connection to God to source to
the universe and it aligns with

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traditional religion and you can
also have it that it doesn't

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align with anything.
You can, you know, kind of have

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your own relation.
Absolutely absurd.

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I I'm one of those Falls in that
last category I feel like, you

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know, I follow my own path.
I don't associate with any

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particular religion but I also
know that from the perspective

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of source energy that it doesn't
matter.

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It really makes no difference
whatsoever.

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What religion?
You actually belong to?

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To what's the most important
thing is, is a path that you're

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on.
Bringing you the joy that you

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seek, all right?
That's what it really boils down

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to.
Yeah yeah.

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That's the real truth of it.
Then connecting to something

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else and there I was not raised
with any religion.

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So as as like in 78 year old
kid, I thought that maybe an

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atheist and I grew up in a.
There were lots of Catholic

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churches.
I'm a neighborhood.

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So I thought Catholic
Catholicism was the only

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religion and I I said, no, there
was no education.

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I didn't know about it at all.
And I maybe even having just

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one, I think there's only one.
Anyway, there was one kid in my

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school, who was teased for being
Jewish, and I just thought that

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meant he was from Israel.
I did did not even comprehend it

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as a relief pitcher, right?
Yeah.

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Like what's the big deal about
you coming from Israel?

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I just what's wrong with that.
As opposed to, if you're from

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Canada I don't get it.
It was all very foreign to me

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but it also interested me.
I in In college, I took multiple

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classes on religion, world
religions and looking different

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Cults and sects and always
trying to find.

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But what's the core?
What's the one thing about it?

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And I realized I was in search
of spirituality, right?

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Yeah.
The common theme amongst them

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all.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's really

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fascinating and I think that's
what Amis a lot of people's down

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that spiritual path, down the
path of spirituality versus

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religion because all too often
what happens is when people are

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looking for that connection to
Source energy that connection

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just to the Our higher self to
God.

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They often times course, though,
the ones that you find

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immediately are going to be the
religions, because they're very,

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very good at marketing.
Themselves are very good at

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putting themselves out there and
making themselves known and

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everything else.
Are you going to find the

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religions first?
And then, I've known, many

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people who have jumped from
religion, to religion, to

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religion, to religion, because
they are seeking.

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But then when they start
encountering all these rules,

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and Restrictions and thou shalt
Nots and things like that.

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They realize that it's there's a
disconnect between what's being

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taught in those organized forums
versus what they tend to feel on

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a deep deep soul level.
And ultimately I have I have

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great respect for those folks
who are able to not only pick

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and choose the beliefs that they
want that, they would like to

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incorporate into their lives.
That that can also create their

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own as well, Forge their own
path.

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So I mean, I know, I know one
individual, he's studied

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virtually at like you, he has
studied virtually every single

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major world religion, and he has
done.

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So in depth, and he has taken
elements from all of them.

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The elements of the is found
most beautiful and that really

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speak to him and Incorporated
them into his life, and he has

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created his own form of
spirituality, his own special

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religion, if he will, Well, it's
really awesome to see.

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It's really cool that it's
they're living in a country with

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religious freedom that you can
pick and choose and make your

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own and you know, we're going
once.

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No it's persecuted to heavily.
I hope and is not in my

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experience at least but it but
it's funny there.

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So they can be so many relaxed
ones.

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I am where I live.
Now I moved here about 15 years

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ago and just down the street,
there's a Unitarian,

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Universalist Church I went
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One side to talk to forget what
they call their leader, the guy

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in charge, right?
And I was really depressed, and

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it was a very suicidal time for
me, and it wasn't one of my last

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Stitch things, like, all right,
I'll try religion.

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But introduced me to God, how
does this work?

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And he was like, oh, we don't
have any rules.

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When I meet Dogma, I'm like,
well, how am I supposed to know

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how to live this way?
I came here.

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I'm probably ready to all right.
Religion world.

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Tell me how to live and no, we
don't do that.

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That's no, we just help me.
Find your path.

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It's Surely that was a trip, but
but in terms of coming out of

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the closet, so to speak and as
you've discovered your spiritual

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aspect, as you tried new things
at experiences, do you

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immediately share them with
people where they kind of?

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Did you keep it kind of quiet to
yourself at times or all the

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time?
Or how was that?

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Because I came from such a place
of fear.

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You know, I was I was I grew up
in a place.

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I was where religion just
dominated, you know, your daily

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life.
You know, growing up Been in

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Utah, where Mormonism is the
dominant, religion and continues

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to play a very oversized role in
people's lives.

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And in life here, I was always
consciously aware, that

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something that didn't fall into
the prescribed formula of the

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faith that I grew up with, was
somehow deemed, you know,

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serving the devil evil and all
that stuff.

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I had to sit within those
narrowly defined parameters that

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were given to me by the church.
And while I was encouraged to

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seek truth from all sources,
there was a caveat that the

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truth had to really be from the
sources that were approved by

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Church authorities like okay and
again I that's not a Christmas

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criticism.
That's just how I interpreted

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it.
That was my personal experience

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of how I was raised and how I
looked at things how I process

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things.
But then so.

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So coming from a place of fear,
I kept it to myself.

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Self.
I kept these new discoveries and

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especially the abilities.
You know, we've talked about

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this in previous episode about
how both you and I read energy,

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especially emotional energy and
we interpret that energy and we

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were able to work with that
energy.

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I've always been aware of that
and for a long time I looked at

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it as just being a gift of the
Holy Ghost that was, that was

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the filter through which I was,
I was processing it but as I

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start to let go of the dogma and
as I started to leave the

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religion and embrace of fullness
and totality of my spirituality,

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I realized This is just it was
just a gift that was always

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there and I was always very
happy with.

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So ultimately, what happened
was, I started, I kept things to

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myself but then I would
eventually starts to share.

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And as I shared more found that
there, more people who are

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willing to embrace that aspect
of either, people who were

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celebrated that part of me.
And I, when I started

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deliberately The tapping into
emotional energy as part of my

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work.
I then discovered that you can't

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just crack the window open to
Peak in it.

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Once you crack that window, open
it.

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You just throw it.
Open and mean, I did more than

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just throw the window open, I
knocked down all the walls.

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All I have are the studs in the
ceiling above me nuts.

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It sounds like I am full on
connected and I am still those.

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I still have those residual
times when I had a little knee

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jerk.
In fear, I've not want him to

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step out, and I wanted to talk
about the spiritual guest,

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particularly, when I Channel,
but I'm learning to live with

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it.
And I'm learning to be more open

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about and I'm learning to
embrace it.

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And it's like, you know what?
If people going to judge me and

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if they were going to want to
disassociate themselves from a,

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because I do share those gifts,
I do speak openly of those gifts

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now.
That's fine.

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They are there.
Welcome to their painting today.

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Welcome to their paths.
So it's not like you were now

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I'm spiritual and it's done.
It was a journey and it is still

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a journey very much a journey.
So, what's curious about yours?

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Because I know that when you
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we talked a little bit about
this before, but I never really

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found out.
You know, how was it, you, you

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stepped into embracing that
particular aspect and being able

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to, to read the akashic records
as well?

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Yeah, so the my first real
training to read energy was a

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year-long program training to be
an energy.

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And they were all tools that a
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I took to tell myself once I
realized I was an empath and

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that a lot of my depression and
suicidal thoughts were really

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there with their energy.
I was picking up from things

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around me.
So I learned to read energy

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learned how to clear blocks like
to release energy.

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Let things pass through me, be
my own willingness to feel all

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my emotions help move past.
Them are not carrying baggage

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around, was a big part of it.
And then the kind of the final

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ceremony of this year-long
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Are we connected with our
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And we had a Record Keeper, come
down and I can, I still I'm

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starting to feel it already.
It was like a software upgrade.

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It was, I felt a being over my
shoulder, open me up and we

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asked like throw away, all the
records of things I've learned

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and the lessons.
I've been repeating and no

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longer need to and make space
for the new and it put me back

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together and I felt amazing and
I was like that was the first

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experience of the akashic
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It was always in my head like,
oh, I'm gonna dig into that more

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at some point.
Maybe two years later I was now

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teaching I was teaching an
energy tools workshop and at the

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same place that I was teaching
the next weekend, was how to

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read an akashic records class.
So that's okay.

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I've finally, I finally I see
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It's a place I come to let's
let's do it.

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And the first time I opened my
records, it was very clear.

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Well, hello again and I fancy
seeing you here and I'd been

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there often and I just didn't
know it.

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And that's what I love about
that as a tool.

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It's just a very simple prayer
like Now I'm in the records and

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now I'm out of the records so
it's not like oh is this?

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My intuition is this is just a
guy, this is someone else's

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energy is just 0 when I'm in the
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That weird things are coming
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Yeah.
Very clear.

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It's fun.
It's just an environment of

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unconditional.
Love is the best way to phrase

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it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yes.
I completely, I know exactly

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what you're talking about.
I know exactly what you're

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talking about.
So that's what that is.

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And You know, by now I'm easily,
you know, I love new

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experiences.
Now blog and tweet and talk all

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about whatever new thing I'm
doing before.

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I even know what it means for me
yet, but it certainly was not

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always that way and we're gonna
show you.

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So now when you have something
new you immediately share it or

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is it still some kind of a
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yourself before you're willing
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Or it still is a bit of a growth
period for me.

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I do get excited very quickly
and I want to share it

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immediately and I do share.
With an immediate circle of

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friends, but sharing it more
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I'm still a little more
cautious.

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I still kind of like step into
it mean, for instance, when the

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no Samuel, the non-physical
intelligence that I had the, I

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Channel, it was over a year that
I realized, I was channeling

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Samuel before, I finally stepped
forward and said, tada, this is

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what I'm doing and coming out of
him yet another closet.

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You know.
I did not realize it had been

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that long.
But cool.

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So you get so during that did
you keep it quiet because you

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weren't quite sure Was it your
own confidence of what was

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happening or yes, that's exactly
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Is my confidence about what has
happened.

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I knew it was happening.
And I mean, the accuracy of what

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was coming through and I was
sensing and feeling was was

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absolutely there.
I just knew it because not only

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did I just feel it with every
fiber every cell of my body, but

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I the feedback I was getting and
people are just like, oh my God,

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that's exactly what I needed to
hear and sometimes things that

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they didn't want to hear.
But they needed to hear.

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That's, that was just was of all
the snow coming through and so.

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Yeah.
Eventually, you know, it what

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happened was, I finally decided
to stop paying attention to my

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fears and start to start paying
a trusting, what was coming

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through only and trusting.
What I was feeling because

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really, for me, it was just
Impressions, I would get very,

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very distinct Impressions that I
would then just translate into

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whatever words would be most
appropriate to describe those

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Impressions that Get and
eventually, you know, this I

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kept getting, I would have said
I was originally referring to

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Samuel as the collective or the
committee because it was it was

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more than, you know.
It was is absolutely, you know,

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a wide collective intelligence.
But eventually, when they kept

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on saying, you know what doing
this thing, one-on-one isn't

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very good because there is a lot
more.

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There are a lot more people out
there who are asking for these.

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Messages who are asking for
these these insights.

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You really need to start
stepping out and doing it in a

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group setting.
So I'm like, okay, so I need a

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name I can just can't go out and
say oh yeah, I talked to the

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committee because, you know,
people think I'm hearing voices,

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which I actually don't know,
you're turning it to Congress,

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that something horrible, factly.
And originally, they did give me

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just Tongue-in-cheek because we
have a mutual friend.

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Pete.
Kosovo is known as the angel

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encourager, we were talking
about doing some some work

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together and since he actually
works with angels and you know,

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does a lot of translating a
messages from archangels,

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they're like very
tongue-in-cheek saying.

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Yeah, if you're going to do
something with paid to use

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Charlie that we could be
Charlie's Angels.

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Like now I want to do something
a little more serious here.

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So they told me Santa and that
was fascinating thing about

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Samuel is that when Samuel, when
I looked at the name Samuel in

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Hebrew shmuel, it's translated
as God hears your God has heard,

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which is to me really
fascinating because of the work

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that I do, the men that I focus
on doing my work with other ones

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who are asking who are
questioning who are in that

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stage of life, where they feel
like, does anybody hear me?

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A mic.
OK, got there obviously was a

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purpose behind that name.
We've just been going on since

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and it's a very different
experience on your end from

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tuning into someone
energetically and emotionally to

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channeling Samuel.
It is it isn't it isn't?

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That's the really strange thing
on one hand.

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Yes.
Because when I'm when I'm

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processing emotional energy and
I'm reading emotional energy is

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very much one on one experience
and yet at the same time, I'm

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also continue to get those
impressions.

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From Samuel as like, okay, I'm
getting this and getting this

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and getting this.
But when I am channeling Samuel

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directly, not only do I feel a
much greater presence that love

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that, you talked about that
incredible, peace and love and

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absolute acceptance.
I have noticed, I tend to speak

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more in first person.
Plural, we Versus just i-i'm

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getting this and getting this
and getting this.

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It's just like, we and just goes
from there.

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And I also noticed that I had my
entire body tingles during the

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during the experience.
It's, it's hard to describe but

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it's almost like being on this
permanent Hiatus permanent Buzz

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where you just know that
something is going on and and

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it's like, you're you're being,
you're into all of your cells

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are being silly.
Stimulated simultaneously.

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Yeah.
Have you discovered kind of

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limit to how much you can be in
that that energy that's face and

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a given day over a given time
period?

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There's No Limit.
There's absolutely no limit

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whatsoever.
In fact, I mean II, just know

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that I could literally step into
a group of tens or thousands.

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It doesn't matter.
There's there is no limit to to

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what I can process, however,
because I'm still getting used

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to all of this.
It my physical body does have a

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tendency to after a period of
about 24 to 48 hours, want to

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just kind of like collapse and
want to just re-energized for a

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little bit.
But again if this is part of the

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getting used to the whole the
whole process of channeling

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Samuel, the more so it is the
physical side of myself.

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No, the my body and my ego, the
brain that are Joel trying to

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feel like, no, we're not being
shunted, aside, we are very much

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part of a partnership that's
going on here.

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They are getting used to the
idea that they're no longer

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fully and control that there's
no need to protect me that it

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is.
So so sometimes when they feel

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like we're not, they're not
getting enough attention.

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If you will know the ego and the
body aren't getting enough

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attention, they will send those
signals to me.

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So yeah, and that's If I get
tired and exhausted but so the

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experience of working with one
person or working with a large

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group, it's not anymore draining
than none whatsoever.

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I always feel exuberant and
exhilarated and just an absolute

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High immediately afterward.
Yeah, but I have also learned,

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for instance, I have channeled
Samuel three times for in group

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events over the past week.
Normally I give myself a Minimum

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of five days before I do a group
event daily.

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It's not an issue.
If it's a one-on-one thing, but

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if it's a group event, I usually
give myself a minimum of five

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days.
So that there is that time for

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recovery and self-care self care
is so important when dealing

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with us, you know, as well as I
do.

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And I tend to forget.
Yeah, yeah I've learned my

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limits the hard way.
It was in November, I was at a

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live a weekend, Long Live event,
just had a booth and Talking

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about coaching and energy work.
And, you know, as a last minute

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thing, I said, oh, I'll just do
a little mini akashic readings

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here.
So like, you know, $20 for 50

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minutes and I ended up doing
things like 28 people and I was

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like, just hi.
This is the best all this one to

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do.
I feel so awesome and then that

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was like all Saturday.
I'll Sunday or Monday was fine

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on Tuesday was like just crashed
exhausted and depress like an

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Extinction and it was almost
like the comparison of like

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staying in that that pure spirit
that pure love Everything's

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awesome.
You see the best of everybody

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when you're, when you're, when
at least, when I'm in the

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record, I'm seeing it.
When people it might be

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complaining about or wondering
what's wrong?

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And might know I see them at
their perfection that there's

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nothing wrong and it's all kind
of illusionary.

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What their whatever their think
they're facing.

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I having challenges with, but
but then kind of meal coming

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back to reality and the physical
reality was like it hit hard.

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Hey does it really does?
And I think that's that's what I

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liken it to is that disconnect,
you know, when you're in there

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when you're in that space and
You feeling all that energy and

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it just flowing through you at
absolutely sustains you but when

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you're no longer consciously
aware of it and you go back to

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your quote-unquote routine,
that's when he noticed me.

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Feel the absence and boy.
Oh boy.

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It's just like, yeah, I give you
just don't bother me.

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I want to take a nap.
Yeah, a lot of maps.

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Yeah, so so so that is
interesting that you know, that

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when when processing energy in
that particular form It sustains

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you at loves you and supports
you and that's exactly what it

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does.
All the time.

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Anyway spirit is always
supporting and sustaining and

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loving and I think that's an
interesting lesson that just

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just popping into my mind.
Right now is an interesting

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lesson to take from all this is
that when when connected to two

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source and no processing the
type of energy give yourself a

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little bit of space and
permission immediately

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afterwards that only to
decompress but also to you to

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remember that there's never
really a Connect.

452
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,500
As long as we can, we can keep
that in mind and remember that

453
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,400
that there won't be that
crashed.

454
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,300
Almost like, you know, taking
5-hour Energy, there's no crash

455
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:01,500
afterward, you feel great and
then you just very gradually

456
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:06,800
settle back down again and move.
Yeah, so and so we've been

457
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,100
talking about stepping out of
the spiritual closet, and

458
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:12,000
letting people know, kind of
what you're into, what your

459
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,500
gifts are, what you're
exploring.

460
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:18,700
And I'm trying to think back.
Anytime I've hesitated and kept

461
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,400
something kind of secret, it's
always been my own fear.

462
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,700
And when I've let people know
what's up there, I've never had

463
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,600
backlash.
I've never had the mocking I've

464
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,400
never, you know, I've never had
the being made fun of or people

465
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,900
doubting me, you know, maybe it
happens outside.

466
00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:34,500
No one's ever has done it to my
face.

467
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,600
There's been no repercussions.
That has, how has that been for

468
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,000
you?
I would say it's been the same

469
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,200
for me.
I have however noticed that

470
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,200
there are people who will stop
talking to me, you know, they

471
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,700
won't just I doubt be hostile
but no, they met They may stop

472
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,700
talking and they you know find
ways to to avoid me.

473
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:58,000
Whatever once again it's fine.
You know for me it is I'm

474
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,200
perfectly.
It's perfectly acceptable for

475
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,900
somebody to occupy whatever
space at the red and if they

476
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,900
feel uncomfortable with me
talking about the more spiritual

477
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:09,800
aspects of myself, and the fact
that I have stepped out of yet,

478
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,100
another closet and fully
embraced, my my work as a

479
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:19,000
Channeler as an energy coach and
energy worker, and all that.

480
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:22,800
That that's fine.
I mean if the path that they are

481
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,300
on and they're comfortable with
that path, which does not give

482
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:32,100
them permission to to see beyond
the narrow scope of which they

483
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:35,700
are looking at the world.
That's okay, that is perfectly.

484
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:38,700
Okay.
Yeah, I noticed that you know,

485
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:40,800
when you put yourself out there,
the new way, when you put

486
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,300
yourself out there, spiritually
when him about your vibration

487
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:47,200
being higher with the people
that don't like what they just

488
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,900
get missed, And multiple
attracted you would track, like,

489
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,800
Doom off to your claims are
attracted and then it takes,

490
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800
it's only like after a while.
Like, well, I just realized, I

491
00:26:55,808 --> 00:26:57,200
haven't talked to that guy in a
long time.

492
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,400
Or I realize, don't you that
person on Facebook anymore.

493
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,900
Well, interesting.
Exactly, exactly.

494
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:03,500
In fact, I was looking at my
page, the other day.

495
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:06,300
I just never really check the
statistics because I don't care

496
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:09,300
about the statistics or
anything, but I just happened to

497
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,100
add a curiosity.
Look, and I saw that I had one

498
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:15,700
on like my page and even though
I couldn't tell a source or

499
00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:18,200
anything like that, I just, I
just immediately knew was like,

500
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,300
okay, that was me.
Italy.

501
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:23,400
After I published my my blog
post about Samuel about

502
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,500
introducing Samuel and the work
that I do channeling Samuel,

503
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:29,500
that's fine.
Obviously that person feels

504
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,000
uncomfortable with it and I'm
okay with that.

505
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,700
I remember it was.
I think it was 2005.

506
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:37,900
That I first saw a video with
Esther Hicks.

507
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600
Hmm.
And you thought she channels,

508
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Abraham and I've become a huge
butt back.

509
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,400
There was first time and she's
saying these neat things, and

510
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,900
then sure.
I notice her voice is a little

511
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:47,800
different.
Are some of the words are

512
00:27:47,808 --> 00:27:50,000
different and later.
She's Talks about that he was

513
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
channeling as like what?
All right.

514
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000
That's just get out of here, so
it doesn't know.

515
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,100
That's why it's called the one
and that's bullshit.

516
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:59,800
I don't, I don't buy it and it
probably took like, six months

517
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,300
before that went away.
And was finally, like, you know

518
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,500
what, I love everything.
She says resonates with me,

519
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:09,000
like, I don't care where it
comes from anymore and then,

520
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,100
yeah.
Then before I know it boy.

521
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,300
I hope I can Channel boy.
I want to know it now.

522
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Couldn't, I am, I might know,
like, I might personally know

523
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,600
like seven or eight people that
channel on a regular basis.

524
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,400
And And yeah, of course you do.
I think it's fantastic and I

525
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,000
love ain't no.
I think that, you know, it's

526
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,700
interesting because you and I
have many, many friends of the

527
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:32,300
same friends around the country
and literally around the world

528
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,700
and so many of them are into
that type of work and I do find

529
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:37,200
it fascinating like you.
It's like once I started

530
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800
stepping out and opening myself
up some people did fall away,

531
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,200
but others many many more came
in and they were open to that.

532
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,400
They welcomed it.
They and I didn't realize

533
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,300
there's so many People who do
this type of work, and at WHO

534
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:54,600
Channel and everything.
And, you know, close to meet

535
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,900
your friend of ours, Tracy
Farquhar, she channels Frank.

536
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:03,800
And we were, we were joking.
You know, the other day it would

537
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,700
be kind of funny to bring a
bunch of us into a room together

538
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:10,400
and generally the different ones
that we did different energies

539
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
and we Channel together.
You know.

540
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:16,400
Just see how all that works out.
I think we're jokin about making

541
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,700
you know, a spiritual Facebook
where only Lie, your channel

542
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:24,600
being can do status updates and
things like Facebook for

543
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,200
nonhumans or something like
that.

544
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:30,900
Yeah, exactly.
It would be a blast for sure.

545
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,900
Yeah, there's so much out there
and whenever I'm working with,

546
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:37,300
with a friend or a client that
is realize, they're the kind of

547
00:29:37,308 --> 00:29:39,300
Awakening that things they don't
understand.

548
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400
I'm like, share it your
willingness to let someone else

549
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,800
know, let them go.
Oh my God, me too.

550
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000
Or I just had the experience, or
I know someone like that and

551
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000
it's not, you know, get out the
pitchforks.

552
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,300
Driving out of town just yeah it
took me a long time to be able

553
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:56,400
to you know talk to other people
who I knew already channeled and

554
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,700
tell him I'm doing this too.
Because part of me is like I was

555
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,100
very protective of them.
I was very protective of their

556
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:05,100
work and very respectful of the
space and the work that they

557
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,600
did.
I did not want to be perceived

558
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,100
as being somebody who was in
competition or anything of that.

559
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:14,700
Sort only to discover that not
only were they deeply

560
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:18,900
supportive, but fascinated and
wanted to know more about my own

561
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Experience and we end up sharing
experiences and talking about

562
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,400
how the we've end up falling
into, you know, into this, this

563
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,100
work.
And I have definitely discovered

564
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,500
that within the spiritual
community and most especially

565
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,900
the channeling community and
those who work with energy.

566
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200
We're all extremely supportive
of each other this business of

567
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,500
jealousy and everything else is
like.

568
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,800
Yeah.
Doesn't exist.

569
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:45,600
Yeah.
Yeah.

570
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,600
It's like that's that's never
been a channeled message.

571
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:48,700
No.
Never, yeah.

572
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,900
Graham says gives good, get rid
of Samuel.

573
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:53,100
Like, they never hear anything
like that.

574
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,400
Oh, that's a beautiful part of
it.

575
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,900
Is that there are infinite
aspects of the one message.

576
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:02,300
There are infinite ways of
communicating it.

577
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:06,000
And the person who is
communicating to aspect of the

578
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:12,300
one message is doing.
So because different parts of

579
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:14,700
humanity are at different
levels.

580
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:21,700
And so those messages are being
Not split apart.

581
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,400
Those messages are being
communicated in a way that it

582
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,100
can be received by the other
people who are at those levels.

583
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:37,400
So for instance, yeah, Samuel
could also be Abraham, but We

584
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,900
lost you.
Click.

585
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,400
I feel dropped off somehow.
All right, he'll come back.

586
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,600
Well, he was talking about
totally distracted know, I don't

587
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,300
know.
He's like you both?

588
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:53,200
See if you come back.
Gradually been here for half

589
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,700
hour.
Here we go.

590
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,500
Now that was weird.
I could see you and everything.

591
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,800
I like my own picture and just
totally dropped out.

592
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,700
I was that strange guys, getting
a message.

593
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,400
So you had a yeah.
And even greater good, you could

594
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,900
witness yourself applying
office.

595
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,500
I, you know, looking like
surprised.

596
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:18,200
I was surprised.
I just refresh my browser and if

597
00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:20,900
it's called right back in.
But by, you know, long story

598
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:25,500
short is that Samuels message is
focused on The principles of

599
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:28,400
joy.
Which is what I've always been

600
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,700
passionate about communicating
and speaking to.

601
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,800
And sharing are the aspects of
joy.

602
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,200
You know my nickname happy oh
happy happy.

603
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:43,100
Oh so it's very much a minor and
and Samuel you know and again

604
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:47,000
that the name Samuel was
deliberately chosen to say yes

605
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,400
we hear you, we hear you.
And here are here, is the part

606
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,100
of the message that you are most
receptive to right now.

607
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,400
And when you're ready, Are other
levels of the message.

608
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,600
You will be others who
communicate those parts of the

609
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,800
message, will step forward and
you will hear them and you will

610
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
receive from them.
Yeah, cool.

611
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,100
One thing I want to share for
anyone, that's kind of just on

612
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,900
the edges of beginning, their
spiritual journey, and

613
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,100
Awakening, and their path,
whatever you want to call it.

614
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,100
You know, when I first started
your mentioning, you know,

615
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,400
different ways to hear the same
message and, you know, I would

616
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,900
see.
Well that guy says that all your

617
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:32,900
same way and I said, and you
said, be present laughter.

618
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:35,000
Eckhart Tolle says here.
I wouldn't each other off and

619
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800
would used to piss me off and
then finally, I do know, it's

620
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,600
the truth.
Yeah.

621
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:43,300
It's going to be If I'm fighting
everyone, I met as gurus are

622
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:45,600
masters of teachers all said
something totally unique and

623
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,100
different.
Well then there is no truth with

624
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,500
a capital T and and just getting
like it, go with representations

625
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:53,600
of something.
But so now my good, you're

626
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600
saying the same thing and that
can hear from you places and

627
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,100
yeah, so now we know it
reinforces the truth to me as

628
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,900
opposed to take me off that
people are.

629
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:01,400
Right.
Exactly.

630
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
That's why I called the one
message, different ways of

631
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,100
communicating.
The one message there are

632
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,900
literally infinite ways just
that they're just as there are

633
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:09,500
infinite expressions of source
energy.

634
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:13,600
Are infinite expressions of the
one message as well.

635
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,699
Well, we're over half our, you
had, you had a heart attack

636
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,699
heart stops.
Oh, so again, join us next week

637
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,900
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638
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:31,199
Eastern on blab live next week.
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639
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,800
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640
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,400
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641
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642
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643
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644
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:50,699
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645
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:55,199
So, all right, well, Andy, it's
always great chatting with you

646
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:03,900
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there.

647
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,500
All right, so we'll see you in
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648
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,300
Take care and everyone.
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