Coming Out of the Spiritual Closet
Andy Grant and Appio Hunter talk about men coming out of the spiritual closet. #RealMenFeel Episode 4, recorded MAR 22, 2016 RealMenFeel.org
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2:38 I would say that my spirit, my first spiritual step was, in fact, getting rid of the religiosity in my life. It was a coming to a recognition that the religion that I had grown up with that had been formed so much, a part of my identity was really no longer serving me. It was no longer bringing me the joy that I had come to expect. And that At that, I wanted from being religious and like you, I defined spear being spiritual as being something. Very distinct as being from being religious. Now, there are many people who see the two as one of the same and their definition. When you talk to them, makes a lot of sense that for them being religious is synonymous with being spiritual, but when you probe further, yeah, it is.
3:27 But, like, you and me, and our experiences, and I think the experiences of many Particularly in Western Society, the equate religion with being dogmatic judgmental exclusionary and everything else. Whereas being spiritual, I call, spiritual being connected to something that you realize know and understand is much greater than yourself being connected. To not only your higher self, but to all of the aspects of the universe that Or what a however you want to Define it. God that's I'm I'm good with that term as well, that is greater than the physical you this bag of meat as he put it.
4:13 Yeah. Yeah. Because for some people yeah, you can be religious and spiritual but some people can be religious in the sense that well, I went to church every Sunday and I sit there and wait for it to be over and I go. And so you can be religious and not spiritual at all. You can be kind of just blindly following something, but you can also be very Your child have a connection to God to source to the universe and it aligns with traditional religion and you can also have it that it doesn't align with anything. You can, you know, kind of have your own relation. Absolutely absurd. I I'm one of those Falls in that last category I feel like, you know, I follow my own path. I don't associate with any particular religion but I also know that from the perspective of source energy that it doesn't matter.
4:57 It really makes no difference whatsoever. What religion? You actually belong to? To what's the most important thing is, is a path that you're on. Bringing you the joy that you seek, all right? That's what it really boils down to. Yeah yeah. That's the real truth of it. Then connecting to something else and there I was not raised with any religion. So as as like in 78 year old kid, I thought that maybe an atheist and I grew up in a. There were lots of Catholic churches. I'm a neighborhood. So I thought Catholic Catholicism was the only religion and I I said, no, there was no education. I didn't know about it at all. And I maybe even having just one, I think there's only one. Anyway, there was one kid in my school, who was teased for being Jewish, and I just thought that meant he was from Israel. I did did not even comprehend it as a relief pitcher, right? Yeah.
5:49 Like what's the big deal about you coming from Israel? I just what's wrong with that. As opposed to, if you're from Canada I don't get it. It was all very foreign to me but it also interested me. I in In college, I took multiple classes on religion, world religions and looking different Cults and sects and always trying to find. But what's the core? What's the one thing about it? And I realized I was in search of spirituality, right? Yeah. The common theme amongst them all. Yeah, yeah, I think it's really fascinating and I think that's what Amis a lot of people's down that spiritual path, down the path of spirituality versus religion because all too often what happens is when people are looking for that connection to Source energy that connection just to the Our higher self to God.
6:35 They often times course, though, the ones that you find immediately are going to be the religions, because they're very, very good at marketing. Themselves are very good at putting themselves out there and making themselves known and everything else. Are you going to find the religions first? And then, I've known, many people who have jumped from religion, to religion, to religion, to religion, because they are seeking. But then when they start encountering all these rules, and Restrictions and thou shalt Nots and things like that. They realize that it's there's a disconnect between what's being taught in those organized forums versus what they tend to feel on a deep deep soul level. And ultimately I have I have great respect for those folks who are able to not only pick and choose the beliefs that they want that, they would like to incorporate into their lives. That that can also create their own as well, Forge their own path.
7:36 So I mean, I know, I know one individual, he's studied virtually at like you, he has studied virtually every single major world religion, and he has done. So in depth, and he has taken elements from all of them. The elements of the is found most beautiful and that really speak to him and Incorporated them into his life, and he has created his own form of spirituality, his own special religion, if he will, Well, it's really awesome to see. It's really cool that it's they're living in a country with religious freedom that you can pick and choose and make your own and you know, we're going once. No it's persecuted to heavily. I hope and is not in my experience at least but it but it's funny there.
8:20 So they can be so many relaxed ones. I am where I live. Now I moved here about 15 years ago and just down the street, there's a Unitarian, Universalist Church I went there. One side to talk to forget what they call their leader, the guy in charge, right? And I was really depressed, and it was a very suicidal time for me, and it wasn't one of my last Stitch things, like, all right, I'll try religion. But introduced me to God, how does this work? And he was like, oh, we don't have any rules. When I meet Dogma, I'm like, well, how am I supposed to know how to live this way? I came here. I'm probably ready to all right. Religion world. Tell me how to live and no, we don't do that. That's no, we just help me. Find your path.
9:00 It's Surely that was a trip, but but in terms of coming out of the closet, so to speak and as you've discovered your spiritual aspect, as you tried new things at experiences, do you immediately share them with people where they kind of? Did you keep it kind of quiet to yourself at times or all the time? Or how was that? Because I came from such a place of fear. You know, I was I was I grew up in a place. I was where religion just dominated, you know, your daily life. You know, growing up Been in Utah, where Mormonism is the dominant, religion and continues to play a very oversized role in people's lives.
9:40 And in life here, I was always consciously aware, that something that didn't fall into the prescribed formula of the faith that I grew up with, was somehow deemed, you know, serving the devil evil and all that stuff. I had to sit within those narrowly defined parameters that were given to me by the church. And while I was encouraged to seek truth from all sources, there was a caveat that the truth had to really be from the sources that were approved by Church authorities like okay and again I that's not a Christmas criticism. That's just how I interpreted it. That was my personal experience of how I was raised and how I looked at things how I process things. But then so.
10:30 So coming from a place of fear, I kept it to myself. Self. I kept these new discoveries and especially the abilities. You know, we've talked about this in previous episode about how both you and I read energy, especially emotional energy and we interpret that energy and we were able to work with that energy. I've always been aware of that and for a long time I looked at it as just being a gift of the Holy Ghost that was, that was the filter through which I was, I was processing it but as I start to let go of the dogma and as I started to leave the religion and embrace of fullness and totality of my spirituality, I realized This is just it was just a gift that was always there and I was always very happy with. So ultimately, what happened was, I started, I kept things to myself but then I would eventually starts to share.
11:18 And as I shared more found that there, more people who are willing to embrace that aspect of either, people who were celebrated that part of me. And I, when I started deliberately The tapping into emotional energy as part of my work. I then discovered that you can't just crack the window open to Peak in it. Once you crack that window, open it. You just throw it. Open and mean, I did more than just throw the window open, I knocked down all the walls. All I have are the studs in the ceiling above me nuts. It sounds like I am full on connected and I am still those. I still have those residual times when I had a little knee jerk. In fear, I've not want him to step out, and I wanted to talk about the spiritual guest, particularly, when I Channel, but I'm learning to live with it. And I'm learning to be more open about and I'm learning to embrace it.
12:14 And it's like, you know what? If people going to judge me and if they were going to want to disassociate themselves from a, because I do share those gifts, I do speak openly of those gifts now. That's fine. They are there. Welcome to their painting today. Welcome to their paths. So it's not like you were now I'm spiritual and it's done. It was a journey and it is still a journey very much a journey. So, what's curious about yours? Because I know that when you started reading akashic records, we talked a little bit about this before, but I never really found out. You know, how was it, you, you stepped into embracing that particular aspect and being able to, to read the akashic records as well?
12:56 Yeah, so the my first real training to read energy was a year-long program training to be an energy. And they were all tools that a training. I took to tell myself once I realized I was an empath and that a lot of my depression and suicidal thoughts were really there with their energy. I was picking up from things around me. So I learned to read energy learned how to clear blocks like to release energy. Let things pass through me, be my own willingness to feel all my emotions help move past. Them are not carrying baggage around, was a big part of it. And then the kind of the final ceremony of this year-long program. Are we connected with our akashic records? And we had a Record Keeper, come down and I can, I still I'm starting to feel it already. It was like a software upgrade.
13:40 It was, I felt a being over my shoulder, open me up and we asked like throw away, all the records of things I've learned and the lessons. I've been repeating and no longer need to and make space for the new and it put me back together and I felt amazing and I was like that was the first experience of the akashic records. It was always in my head like, oh, I'm gonna dig into that more at some point. Maybe two years later I was now teaching I was teaching an energy tools workshop and at the same place that I was teaching the next weekend, was how to read an akashic records class. So that's okay. I've finally, I finally I see it. It's a place I come to let's let's do it. And the first time I opened my records, it was very clear.
14:22 Well, hello again and I fancy seeing you here and I'd been there often and I just didn't know it. And that's what I love about that as a tool. It's just a very simple prayer like Now I'm in the records and now I'm out of the records so it's not like oh is this? My intuition is this is just a guy, this is someone else's energy is just 0 when I'm in the right place. That weird things are coming from. Yeah. Very clear. It's fun. It's just an environment of unconditional. Love is the best way to phrase it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I completely, I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. So that's what that is. And You know, by now I'm easily, you know, I love new experiences. Now blog and tweet and talk all about whatever new thing I'm doing before.
15:05 I even know what it means for me yet, but it certainly was not always that way and we're gonna show you. So now when you have something new you immediately share it or is it still some kind of a little growth period for yourself before you're willing to go out there? Or it still is a bit of a growth period for me. I do get excited very quickly and I want to share it immediately and I do share. With an immediate circle of friends, but sharing it more openly. I'm still a little more cautious. I still kind of like step into it mean, for instance, when the no Samuel, the non-physical intelligence that I had the, I Channel, it was over a year that I realized, I was channeling Samuel before, I finally stepped forward and said, tada, this is what I'm doing and coming out of him yet another closet.
15:50 You know. I did not realize it had been that long. But cool. So you get so during that did you keep it quiet because you weren't quite sure Was it your own confidence of what was happening or yes, that's exactly what it was. Is my confidence about what has happened. I knew it was happening. And I mean, the accuracy of what was coming through and I was sensing and feeling was was absolutely there. I just knew it because not only did I just feel it with every fiber every cell of my body, but I the feedback I was getting and people are just like, oh my God, that's exactly what I needed to hear and sometimes things that they didn't want to hear. But they needed to hear.
16:31 That's, that was just was of all the snow coming through and so. Yeah. Eventually, you know, it what happened was, I finally decided to stop paying attention to my fears and start to start paying a trusting, what was coming through only and trusting. What I was feeling because really, for me, it was just Impressions, I would get very, very distinct Impressions that I would then just translate into whatever words would be most appropriate to describe those Impressions that Get and eventually, you know, this I kept getting, I would have said I was originally referring to Samuel as the collective or the committee because it was it was more than, you know. It was is absolutely, you know, a wide collective intelligence. But eventually, when they kept on saying, you know what doing this thing, one-on-one isn't very good because there is a lot more.
17:26 There are a lot more people out there who are asking for these. Messages who are asking for these these insights. You really need to start stepping out and doing it in a group setting. So I'm like, okay, so I need a name I can just can't go out and say oh yeah, I talked to the committee because, you know, people think I'm hearing voices, which I actually don't know, you're turning it to Congress, that something horrible, factly. And originally, they did give me just Tongue-in-cheek because we have a mutual friend. Pete. Kosovo is known as the angel encourager, we were talking about doing some some work together and since he actually works with angels and you know, does a lot of translating a messages from archangels, they're like very tongue-in-cheek saying.
18:16 Yeah, if you're going to do something with paid to use Charlie that we could be Charlie's Angels. Like now I want to do something a little more serious here. So they told me Santa and that was fascinating thing about Samuel is that when Samuel, when I looked at the name Samuel in Hebrew shmuel, it's translated as God hears your God has heard, which is to me really fascinating because of the work that I do, the men that I focus on doing my work with other ones who are asking who are questioning who are in that stage of life, where they feel like, does anybody hear me? A mic. OK, got there obviously was a purpose behind that name. We've just been going on since and it's a very different experience on your end from tuning into someone energetically and emotionally to channeling Samuel. It is it isn't it isn't?
19:10 That's the really strange thing on one hand. Yes. Because when I'm when I'm processing emotional energy and I'm reading emotional energy is very much one on one experience and yet at the same time, I'm also continue to get those impressions. From Samuel as like, okay, I'm getting this and getting this and getting this. But when I am channeling Samuel directly, not only do I feel a much greater presence that love that, you talked about that incredible, peace and love and absolute acceptance. I have noticed, I tend to speak more in first person. Plural, we Versus just i-i'm getting this and getting this and getting this. It's just like, we and just goes from there.
19:53 And I also noticed that I had my entire body tingles during the during the experience. It's, it's hard to describe but it's almost like being on this permanent Hiatus permanent Buzz where you just know that something is going on and and it's like, you're you're being, you're into all of your cells are being silly. Stimulated simultaneously. Yeah. Have you discovered kind of limit to how much you can be in that that energy that's face and a given day over a given time period? There's No Limit. There's absolutely no limit whatsoever. In fact, I mean II, just know that I could literally step into a group of tens or thousands.
20:39 It doesn't matter. There's there is no limit to to what I can process, however, because I'm still getting used to all of this. It my physical body does have a tendency to after a period of about 24 to 48 hours, want to just kind of like collapse and want to just re-energized for a little bit. But again if this is part of the getting used to the whole the whole process of channeling Samuel, the more so it is the physical side of myself. No, the my body and my ego, the brain that are Joel trying to feel like, no, we're not being shunted, aside, we are very much part of a partnership that's going on here.
21:24 They are getting used to the idea that they're no longer fully and control that there's no need to protect me that it is. So so sometimes when they feel like we're not, they're not getting enough attention. If you will know the ego and the body aren't getting enough attention, they will send those signals to me. So yeah, and that's If I get tired and exhausted but so the experience of working with one person or working with a large group, it's not anymore draining than none whatsoever. I always feel exuberant and exhilarated and just an absolute High immediately afterward. Yeah, but I have also learned, for instance, I have channeled Samuel three times for in group events over the past week. Normally I give myself a Minimum of five days before I do a group event daily.
22:19 It's not an issue. If it's a one-on-one thing, but if it's a group event, I usually give myself a minimum of five days. So that there is that time for recovery and self-care self care is so important when dealing with us, you know, as well as I do. And I tend to forget. Yeah, yeah I've learned my limits the hard way. It was in November, I was at a live a weekend, Long Live event, just had a booth and Talking about coaching and energy work. And, you know, as a last minute thing, I said, oh, I'll just do a little mini akashic readings here. So like, you know, $20 for 50 minutes and I ended up doing things like 28 people and I was like, just hi. This is the best all this one to do. I feel so awesome and then that was like all Saturday. I'll Sunday or Monday was fine on Tuesday was like just crashed exhausted and depress like an Extinction and it was almost like the comparison of like staying in that that pure spirit that pure love Everything's awesome. You see the best of everybody when you're, when you're, when at least, when I'm in the record, I'm seeing it. When people it might be complaining about or wondering what's wrong?
23:23 And might know I see them at their perfection that there's nothing wrong and it's all kind of illusionary. What their whatever their think they're facing. I having challenges with, but but then kind of meal coming back to reality and the physical reality was like it hit hard. Hey does it really does? And I think that's that's what I liken it to is that disconnect, you know, when you're in there when you're in that space and You feeling all that energy and it just flowing through you at absolutely sustains you but when you're no longer consciously aware of it and you go back to your quote-unquote routine, that's when he noticed me. Feel the absence and boy. Oh boy. It's just like, yeah, I give you just don't bother me.
24:06 I want to take a nap. Yeah, a lot of maps. Yeah, so so so that is interesting that you know, that when when processing energy in that particular form It sustains you at loves you and supports you and that's exactly what it does. All the time. Anyway spirit is always supporting and sustaining and loving and I think that's an interesting lesson that just just popping into my mind. Right now is an interesting lesson to take from all this is that when when connected to two source and no processing the type of energy give yourself a little bit of space and permission immediately afterwards that only to decompress but also to you to remember that there's never really a Connect.
24:47 As long as we can, we can keep that in mind and remember that that there won't be that crashed. Almost like, you know, taking 5-hour Energy, there's no crash afterward, you feel great and then you just very gradually settle back down again and move. Yeah, so and so we've been talking about stepping out of the spiritual closet, and letting people know, kind of what you're into, what your gifts are, what you're exploring. And I'm trying to think back. Anytime I've hesitated and kept something kind of secret, it's always been my own fear. And when I've let people know what's up there, I've never had backlash. I've never had the mocking I've never, you know, I've never had the being made fun of or people doubting me, you know, maybe it happens outside.
25:32 No one's ever has done it to my face. There's been no repercussions. That has, how has that been for you? I would say it's been the same for me. I have however noticed that there are people who will stop talking to me, you know, they won't just I doubt be hostile but no, they met They may stop talking and they you know find ways to to avoid me. Whatever once again it's fine. You know for me it is I'm perfectly. It's perfectly acceptable for somebody to occupy whatever space at the red and if they feel uncomfortable with me talking about the more spiritual aspects of myself, and the fact that I have stepped out of yet, another closet and fully embraced, my my work as a Channeler as an energy coach and energy worker, and all that.
26:19 That that's fine. I mean if the path that they are on and they're comfortable with that path, which does not give them permission to to see beyond the narrow scope of which they are looking at the world. That's okay, that is perfectly. Okay. Yeah, I noticed that you know, when you put yourself out there, the new way, when you put yourself out there, spiritually when him about your vibration being higher with the people that don't like what they just get missed, And multiple attracted you would track, like, Doom off to your claims are attracted and then it takes, it's only like after a while. Like, well, I just realized, I haven't talked to that guy in a long time. Or I realize, don't you that person on Facebook anymore.
26:59 Well, interesting. Exactly, exactly. In fact, I was looking at my page, the other day. I just never really check the statistics because I don't care about the statistics or anything, but I just happened to add a curiosity. Look, and I saw that I had one on like my page and even though I couldn't tell a source or anything like that, I just, I just immediately knew was like, okay, that was me. Italy. After I published my my blog post about Samuel about introducing Samuel and the work that I do channeling Samuel, that's fine. Obviously that person feels uncomfortable with it and I'm okay with that. I remember it was. I think it was 2005. That I first saw a video with Esther Hicks. Hmm. And you thought she channels, Abraham and I've become a huge butt back.
27:42 There was first time and she's saying these neat things, and then sure. I notice her voice is a little different. Are some of the words are different and later. She's Talks about that he was channeling as like what? All right. That's just get out of here, so it doesn't know. That's why it's called the one and that's bullshit. I don't, I don't buy it and it probably took like, six months before that went away. And was finally, like, you know what, I love everything. She says resonates with me, like, I don't care where it comes from anymore and then, yeah. Then before I know it boy. I hope I can Channel boy. I want to know it now. Couldn't, I am, I might know, like, I might personally know like seven or eight people that channel on a regular basis. And And yeah, of course you do. I think it's fantastic and I love ain't no. I think that, you know, it's interesting because you and I have many, many friends of the same friends around the country and literally around the world and so many of them are into that type of work and I do find it fascinating like you. It's like once I started stepping out and opening myself up some people did fall away, but others many many more came in and they were open to that.
28:45 They welcomed it. They and I didn't realize there's so many People who do this type of work, and at WHO Channel and everything. And, you know, close to meet your friend of ours, Tracy Farquhar, she channels Frank. And we were, we were joking. You know, the other day it would be kind of funny to bring a bunch of us into a room together and generally the different ones that we did different energies and we Channel together. You know. Just see how all that works out. I think we're jokin about making you know, a spiritual Facebook where only Lie, your channel being can do status updates and things like Facebook for nonhumans or something like that.
29:26 Yeah, exactly. It would be a blast for sure. Yeah, there's so much out there and whenever I'm working with, with a friend or a client that is realize, they're the kind of Awakening that things they don't understand. I'm like, share it your willingness to let someone else know, let them go. Oh my God, me too. Or I just had the experience, or I know someone like that and it's not, you know, get out the pitchforks. Driving out of town just yeah it took me a long time to be able to you know talk to other people who I knew already channeled and tell him I'm doing this too. Because part of me is like I was very protective of them. I was very protective of their work and very respectful of the space and the work that they did. I did not want to be perceived as being somebody who was in competition or anything of that.
30:10 Sort only to discover that not only were they deeply supportive, but fascinated and wanted to know more about my own Experience and we end up sharing experiences and talking about how the we've end up falling into, you know, into this, this work. And I have definitely discovered that within the spiritual community and most especially the channeling community and those who work with energy. We're all extremely supportive of each other this business of jealousy and everything else is like. Yeah. Doesn't exist. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that's that's never been a channeled message. No. Never, yeah. Graham says gives good, get rid of Samuel.
30:50 Like, they never hear anything like that. Oh, that's a beautiful part of it. Is that there are infinite aspects of the one message. There are infinite ways of communicating it. And the person who is communicating to aspect of the one message is doing. So because different parts of humanity are at different levels. And so those messages are being Not split apart. Those messages are being communicated in a way that it can be received by the other people who are at those levels. So for instance, yeah, Samuel could also be Abraham, but We lost you. Click.
31:40 I feel dropped off somehow. All right, he'll come back. Well, he was talking about totally distracted know, I don't know. He's like you both? See if you come back. Gradually been here for half hour. Here we go. Now that was weird. I could see you and everything. I like my own picture and just totally dropped out. I was that strange guys, getting a message. So you had a yeah. And even greater good, you could witness yourself applying office. I, you know, looking like surprised. I was surprised. I just refresh my browser and if it's called right back in. But by, you know, long story short is that Samuels message is focused on The principles of joy. Which is what I've always been passionate about communicating and speaking to.
32:31 And sharing are the aspects of joy. You know my nickname happy oh happy happy. Oh so it's very much a minor and and Samuel you know and again that the name Samuel was deliberately chosen to say yes we hear you, we hear you. And here are here, is the part of the message that you are most receptive to right now. And when you're ready, Are other levels of the message. You will be others who communicate those parts of the message, will step forward and you will hear them and you will receive from them. Yeah, cool.
33:12 One thing I want to share for anyone, that's kind of just on the edges of beginning, their spiritual journey, and Awakening, and their path, whatever you want to call it. You know, when I first started your mentioning, you know, different ways to hear the same message and, you know, I would see. Well that guy says that all your same way and I said, and you said, be present laughter. Eckhart Tolle says here. I wouldn't each other off and would used to piss me off and then finally, I do know, it's the truth. Yeah. It's going to be If I'm fighting everyone, I met as gurus are masters of teachers all said something totally unique and different. Well then there is no truth with a capital T and and just getting like it, go with representations of something. But so now my good, you're saying the same thing and that can hear from you places and yeah, so now we know it reinforces the truth to me as opposed to take me off that people are.
34:00 Right. Exactly. That's why I called the one message, different ways of communicating. The one message there are literally infinite ways just that they're just as there are infinite expressions of source energy. Are infinite expressions of the one message as well. Well, we're over half our, you had, you had a heart attack heart stops. Oh, so again, join us next week for real men, feel, we're here every Tuesday 5 p.m. Eastern on blab live next week. We are going to talk about male stereotypes that we are sick of and there's lots of those should be a And if you want to add too, if you want to join in in between calls, join us on Facebook, Facebook / group /, real men, feel share your stereotypes that you're sick of talking about future shows, past shows, whatever is going on a link over here on the chat as well.
34:50 So, all right, well, Andy, it's always great chatting with you blabbing with crops and Fields there. All right, so we'll see you in will see you guys in a week. Take care and everyone. Bye.
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