Leadership In Chaotic Times with James Greenshields

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Hello and welcome to Real Men
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I'm your host, author, coach and
healer, Andy Grant.

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Real Men Feel exists to remind
men that they are human beings

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and they have the right to
experience and express all of

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their emotions.
We have conversations that most

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men are not having, but that all
men can benefit from.

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My returning guest today is
James Greenshields.

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James is a husband of over 20
years and honored father of two

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amazing women.
He served 17 years as an

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Australian Army officer and woke
up in combat.

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Now with over 14 years post
military, James has Co founded

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and been the lead facilitator
for leadership and men's

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well-being at the Emergence
Leaders Foundation.

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He couples experiences with
First Nation people around the

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globe running youth rites of
passage for 10 years, overlaid

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on practical understanding of
leadership and environments as

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diverse as the battlefield.
Boardrooms and professional

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sports have enabled him to
create a new paradigm of

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leadership he calls harmonic
leadership.

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Let's do it.
Welcome back to Real Men Field,

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James.
Thanks brother, great to be

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back.
You know it had been a we we

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spoke just the other day for the
first time and we knew it had

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been a while, but you and your
wife Kirstie were on real men

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feel it was way back show #48 in
2017 it.

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Was 2017 right?
I remember where we were.

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We were in a park and we're
there and talking to you.

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Because I just remember the
experience, but I didn't realize

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it was 2017.
Wow.

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Yeah, you.
So you weren't the first

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Australian guest, but you were
the first married couple to to

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be appear at the same time as as
guests?

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Yeah, right.
Yeah, humbled.

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And you're still together.
Yes, we are very good. 2020

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years this year, 20 years of
marriage, 25 years of being

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together.
Yeah, very good.

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So you had reached out because
you're doing a lot of work

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lately helping self-sufficient
communities and that was really

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falling into your, your
leadership niche.

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So, so tell me about what that's
like.

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What does it mean to to have a
help help a community become

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more self-sufficient?
Well, I, I suppose you take one

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step even further back than
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Lots of people are, are just
looking around the world at the

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moment and they're commenting on
how they see the world in a, in

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a negative way.
They don't like what's

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happening.
But The thing is, so many people

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are then waiting for someone
else to come along and fix it.

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And I, I've since around, you
know, I left the military in

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2010.
I'd had a lot of experience from

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Iraqis, Timor and I, I got to
see quite a lot of, quite a lot

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of different ways, I suppose, of
living in harsh conditions and,

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and turbulence and obviously
combat, et cetera.

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But when I got home, I, I, you
know, going, coming out of post

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traumatic stress from that
experience, it was something

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really dawned on me about the
nature of community because my,

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my healing journey, like I, I
got out in the middle of our,

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our nations capital called
Canberra.

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And that was where I had my last
posting and, and my last job

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and, and I only moved about
about 10 kilometers outside

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Canberra itself.
So for that year, I never felt

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that I left the military.
It was, it was still 2IN it.

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So we moved up to a beautiful
place called Melania on the

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Sunshine Coast, which is, is an
indigenous people up there that

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have been custodians of that
place of the Gubby Gubby.

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And I'm realistically that's
where I started my healing

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journey home from, from post
traumatic stress and everything.

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And then we travelled Australia
10 years ago, 2014, in a

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Canberra trailer with my two
daughters.

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They were seven and five at the
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And we just had epic
experiences.

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And I felt like I was constantly
putting myself back together.

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I found myself in the in the
deep in the Indonesian jungles,

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taking some Indigenous elders
back to their ancient burial

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caves, just having experience
after experience of just

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connection.
And then finally we've been

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living in this area called the
Northern Rivers, just near a

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place called Byron Bay.
And, and this is Bungelung

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Nation territory.
And I found home tree here.

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So what it constantly showed me
was the place of community.

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And each community we visited
was extremely different but

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beautiful and a lot of nuances
which were the same but

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beautiful unto their own.
And it became extremely

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self-evident to me.
The communities know themselves

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best.
Yes, they, they can always like

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benefit from an objective
outside observative to, to look

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at denial and other things which
are going on, but they actually

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know the nuances of themselves
best.

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So then it started to really
dawn on me that every issue on

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the planet can be solved at a
community level within a global

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context because we're networked,
we're global, and there's no

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going back from that unless we
have a, you know, an Armageddon

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Day.
And I just, I just introduced my

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youngest daughter to Armageddon
with Bruce Willis and Ben

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Affleck, and she liked the
soundtrack, you know, so, so

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unless we have something like
that, you know, we'll always be

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networked in some way, shape or
form.

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And there's a, there's a beauty
to that.

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But if we lose track that the
community's the real essence of

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why we're alive, it brings so
much, you know, alive.

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You look at, you look at mental
health issues like those that

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isolate them, depression,
anxiety, trauma, they're all

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isolative conditions.
When community is brought forth,

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they can actually do healing.
First Nation people have known

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this for eons in that we'll have
ceremony, ritual and process to

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actually allow for that healing
process to be contained,

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vectored and and moved through.
I mean, I'm, I'm in the shadow

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of a thing called Upper Wilson's
Creek, which is deep in the

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nightcap range, the largest
Caldara or big volcanic area in

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the Southern hemisphere and
really, really powerful land.

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I mean, mountain Warning, it is
just over there and it's the 1st

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place that the light touches
Australia, the Australian

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mainland in the morning.
And, and Mount Warning itself is

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the for the indigenous.
It's the the place of spiritual

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constitution and and law LORE.
So it's really, really powerful

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land.
Actually a major song line or

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Ley line between, across
Australia, between Byron Bay and

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and Monkey Meyer right over on
the West Coast.

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I'm sitting on it.
And up in the valley of Wilson's

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Creek.
That was just man territory and

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trauma.
People would go in there, heal

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the trauma and the women would
hold space around the escarment.

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They wouldn't go in.
And so they knew the land, they

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knew the community, they knew
what was needed.

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And, and you look at farming
communities and I'm, I'm pretty

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sure with my understanding of
being out of the state's bit,

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you know, there's a lot of, a
lot of similarity in that, that

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essence, not only from your
indigenous people there, but

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also from your country people.
They know the land is so much

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better, but it didn't come into
the cities.

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And when we get out of our own
backyard, out of our own like

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apartment block, etcetera, and
we start meeting people, when we

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do that, there's, there's a
sense of unity that comes

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together instead of separation.
And So what I found is

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communities, the number one
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When we get that right, then
everything else starts to take

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to take forms to come back to
this initial point, which was

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people are waiting so much for
everyone else.

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And we had 22 communities across
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Australia.
And what my job was particularly

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was the architect to build the
governance and, and the

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leadership structures for that.
But also what I quickly

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identified was a shift of
consciousness was necessary.

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And there was a lot of fighting.
People were fighting because

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they didn't like what was going
on.

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But the issue with the fight is
that the rebel or the rebellion

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is dictated by the authority
that they're rebelling against.

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If you think about it, if the
authority moves left, then you

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have to move right.
If it moves right, you have to

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move left.
And So what I was helping them

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understand is that when you do
that, you're creating from the

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old and you're creating from
your trauma.

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So you'll simply, but create
more trauma.

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And therefore you have to have
a, you have a need for trauma.

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You actually trauma bonded.
So what I was helping people

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understand is we can move beyond
resilience and trauma to create

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from a place of love.
And when you do that, you

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completely create from a place
new that is for you and for your

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family, for your future.
North American Indians make a

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decision for considering 7
generations into the future

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because they know that 7
generations before were

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connected to the thing, to the
moment in time that they're in

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right now.
So, you know, using those very

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simple ancient concepts and just
helping people remember them and

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then empowering people to stand
up and and saying we don't

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actually agree with the fact
that you guys are removing all

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these this beautiful country
because of the all these trees,

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etcetera.
For some development.

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No, we want, this is our
community and our community

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wants to be in a certain way,
but not just saying that being

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able to not fight it per SE, but
provide alternative options,

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provide, you know, a way
forward, a vision for everyone

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to move forward, not just to go
stop, stop, stop, but go real.

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I realize, OK, no, we don't want
to go in that direction, so

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let's stop that direction.
But we need to set another

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direction.
Otherwise, stagnation causes

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cancer.
Right.

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Don't just fight where someone's
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Give a give a better direction.
You need to don't just be

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against someone else's solution.
We you need to come with come up

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with your own.
Yeah, I mean, I remember my,

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when I was a combat team
commander, I had over 110

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soldiers, you know, and I had
three key young lieutenants that

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were part of the, that they were
my teeth of the, of the group

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because we're a combat
organization.

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And, and whenever they walk in,
matter of fact, whenever anyone

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walked into my office, I said
that door will always remain

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open whether or not you walk in
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That's a different thing.
Because if you walk in with an

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issue, you're going to bring 3
solutions because that shows me

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you've been proactive and you've
thought about it.

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You haven't just come to dump it
on my desk.

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And that's not respectful to me.
And it's actually therefore not

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respectful to yourself because
you're disempowering yourself.

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So walk into my office with an
issue, have three solutions.

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Now sometimes they come in and
and they go.

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So I've really scratched my head
about this one.

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I've got no idea.
So we'd sit down together and

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we'd work through it, or
sometimes they'd throw their

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three options on the table and
say, Yep, what I also know is

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this, this and this.
And what I also have available

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is this.
So let's come up with option 4.

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So we'd do that, but quite
regular, especially when we then

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deployed to Iraq into combat
where time was of the essence

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that would come back and say
situation is this, this and this

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recommend?
I've got three options recommend

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A and also they'll get a message
over the radio was do it because

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that I knew that that
demonstrated to me that level of

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rapport and understanding and
trust that that was that were

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competent, that demonstrated
competence, capability and

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credibility.
And and in that moment was like

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bang, yeah, go, go, go, go.
And it it just meant that we had

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a really great quick decision.
Cycle you, you admit when we

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spoke the other day you would
mentioned seeing more people

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kind of operating from fear as
opposed to love which you had

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mentioned earlier.
So do is there an increase in

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that or is it always been people
always operated that way and

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you're just noticing it more?
Did you have any idea?

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Well, if you if you follow a guy
called, it used to be Doctor

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David Hawkins, he has a scale of
consciousness between 0 and 1020

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is the lowest vibrating emotion.
That's shame, followed by guilt

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and apathy.
When you when you hit around a

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vibration of about 100 to 150
where fear sits, you become

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extremely manipulatable.
And this isn't just in David

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Hawkins has just quantified it
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It's this has been known for a
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When a person's in fear,
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The fear will actually remove
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So your rational reasoning mind
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So your brain function becomes
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And so in that time you become
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stability in moving forward,
say, you know, solid direction,

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et cetera, it becomes very hit
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And not only that, you will
often give away your power to

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other people that have, you
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play.
So, and we will do that.

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You know, you look at the last
four years, a lot of people

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chose to do things which weren't
morally what they wanted for

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normally, but because they
needed to keep their job, they

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chose to do something that and
if if the situation was

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different, they wouldn't have
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So well.
The question as soon as that

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happens is you then realize
you're not making a medical

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decision.
You're actually making a values

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values decision.
And what you've demonstrated is

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your values change based on the
external environment instead of

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coming to a place inside your
life where you're so deeply

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connected that you are rooted in
your values and they don't

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change to the environment.
What what happens is your

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interaction with the environment
changes, not the values

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themselves.
And see that caused a lot of

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confusion, which you know, fear
is perpetuated from and fear

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also causes division.
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communities, communities
breakdown because of division.

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I mean, I'm still struggling to
understand back in 2000 and

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Australia, something happened
with toilet paper and and I'm

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really not too sure what it was,
but you couldn't for the life if

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you get toilet paper and people
were in the shops arguing and

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fighting over toilet paper,
which, you know, has so much

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iron to me.
And I could go totally left

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fielding into the gutter about
that, but I won't.

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But I still scratched my head
because there was actually no

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issue with toilet paper and it
never never became an issue

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except because the fear created
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And that's what fear does.
Fear creates the thing, the

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movie that it's actually telling
you to get away from.

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Now when you do deep work with a
person, you help them go deep

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inside and go right in and and
actually embrace the fear

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because it you can't push fear
away it it locks down and then

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will service in many different
ways, particularly behavioural

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patterns.
But when you draw the actual

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emotion in, you sit in it.
What happens is quite regularly

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fear is linked to a belief of
safety and a lot of people

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believe that safety is the
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It's not actually, but it's
belonging which is the

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fundamental condition and people
will give up their safety to

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belong.
It's really fascinating.

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You look at any life threatening
situations like where a family's

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involved and stuff and love
which is linked to belonging,

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people will do fascinating
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A good friend of mine lost his
life in a canyoning incident in

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Europe when his brother though
he had he had three brothers and

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they were all doing a canyoning
thing and a flash flood came

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through the Canyon.
His brother got was getting

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swept away.
He dived inside his brother and

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gave his own life, truly
courageous thing.

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And now in the moment he
wouldn't have thought it

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courageous.
He just would have done it

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because of love and the sense of
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So fear is fear is a separative
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unifying emotion.
And you know, Australia's a

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great example, but
realistically, Australia's a

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microcosm of the globe.
And, and I think America, you

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know, you had the Standing Rock
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You've got, you've still got a
lot of issues amongst your, you

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know, your past and your present
and, and into your future.

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You know, just the last couple
of weeks just demonstrated that.

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But you know, in Australia, one
of the things is we still have a

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lot of guilt and shame sitting
around about the last 200 years.

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Instead of realizing that in
this moment, what we can do is

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we can go stop to that guilt and
shame and we can build from a

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place of love and unity and we
can create a future which is in

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that.
But at the moment, what everyone

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is most people are trying to do,
and I say most people because

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there's quite a few people
actually, that there's a,

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there's an emergence of what I'm
talking about that's happening.

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And that is that we go, OK, we
acknowledge the past.

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It's not that I don't
acknowledge the past, but I'm

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not bringing the past into the
present to actually create the

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future.
What I'll do is I'll acknowledge

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the past, I'll learn from the
past, which means that healing

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can happen.
And I'll take the lesson of the

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past.
And the lesson of the past is,

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is division creates pain in
essence, in if you look at every

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narrative, every story, every
history, division will always

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create pain.
So obviously, if I'm to learn

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from that, then unifying is the
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That would be the lesson.
How do I unify fear or love?

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It's love.
And the ancient sages have

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always said there's only two
emotions, fear and love, the

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psychologist would argue.
But anyway, so so the point is

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we then creating this moment
from love and we unify moving

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forward.
We acknowledge everyone's

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differences because that's what
gives beauty like a trees, even

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the same specie of trees are
different.

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But if you look and I'm looking
out into a nature reserve at the

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moment and like there's so much
going on out there, but it's all

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actually in harmony.
It's not, it's not sustaining.

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There's no sustainability out
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It's actually in harmony because
there's death and there's birth

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constantly happening in this
cycle and it's and it's all done

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in in unison.
Right.

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So, so nature's harmonious
sustainability gets talked about

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in the picture when you add man
and we kind of screw up the

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harmony and we need to take
different actions to kind of

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save what we've just been
destroying.

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But yeah, you know, I, I love
all this talk of acting from

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fear and how it really shuts the
brain down because you're we're

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seeing across the globe more and
more democracies are are

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choosing more authoritarian
leaders.

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So that's to me that that
populace is really living in

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fear.
So they want to.

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It's almost like they want to be
told what to do and feel safe.

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Does that make sense?
Yeah.

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Total sense.
I mean, one of the biggest

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reasons that was going on in the
last, you know, few years is

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people actually fear death so
much.

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Now there's a beautiful man that
wrote in 1941 a book called

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Escape from Freedom.
His name is Eric Fromm.

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He was a Jewish psychiatrist at
the time, a German psychiatrist.

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I don't know who's Jewish, but
he wrote about the rise of

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fascism when it was happening.
And not only did he write about

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it, he gave you a a history of
Western psychology dating way

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back to the Roman times as to
how the psychology of the West

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had shifted at certain stages to
come into a place where it was

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susceptible for and needed in in
a place fascism to slot in and

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fill something.
This is what we forget.

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Something will always grow
because there's a need.

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Now if it's an unconscious
growth, then quite regularly

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there'll be a lot of collateral
damage and cancer, etcetera.

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But if it's a conscious growth,
it it doesn't have to be that

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way.
It can actually be something

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completely beautiful and rich
and harmonious.

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And that's actually the premise
of what I refer to and what I

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teach is harmonic leadership.
But it all starts with what an

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ancient Christian Mystic would
say is I must, I must sanctify

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myself.
I must purify myself before I'm

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illuminated to the divine.
And that you know, we therefore

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with harmonic leadership, we
start with purify myself as the

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leader, prepare myself before I
prepare my organization, before

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I even think about preparing my
community.

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Because if I go into my
community and I'm, I'm not pure,

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then I'm probably acting out of
wound.

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And then I could be projecting
that wound and that wound will

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have fear and and delays with it
and it won't be coming from a

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place of love and unity.
So I must purify myself first,

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make sure my intent is actually
pure, and then I step out.

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And when I step out, I actually
attract as opposed to push.

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And again, this is a David
Hawkins concept of force versus

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power, power versus force.
I don't force an issue, I

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empower an issue for it.
And I do that through, I do do

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that through becoming a magnet,
becoming magnetic.

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How do I become magnetic?
What I actually do is tune into

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the frequency of what my
intention is and my vision and I

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amp that.
And when I say amp that it's the

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amplitude of the the way which
actually gives you the power.

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And when I focus on that in such
a refined fashion, what I

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actually do to not my just my
neurochemistry, but my whole

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being is I put out a magnetic
field which therefore attracts.

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And so therefore I then unify a
team.

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Unifying the team is the is the
second stage now a unify A-Team

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which is aligned to my purified
self.

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And because we're all aligned,
when you get 2 waves, two sine

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waves or frequency waves, if
they're the same frequency and

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the same amplitude and you put
them together, that will double

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their amplitude.
And so that then ends up in a

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exponential curve of power
increase.

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When I've got a suite of people
coming in, it's like who's

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you're in Massachusetts?
Yeah, yes.

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So do you guys play in Michigan
at all unsafe footy or anything

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like that?
Because Michigan's pretty big

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over there, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

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So in in New England, we got
lots of smaller colleges.

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So none of them, none of them
are really a sports powerhouse.

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So way more pros.
So college football is bigger

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and plays like Michigan and
where where, you know, college

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stadiums dwarf professional ones
because there's so many people,

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so many alumni and there's
there's there's no pro sports

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kind of competing with it.
Yeah, got you.

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So just imagine you've got
you've got people sitting at a

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bar.
You got three people sitting at

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a bar and it's in Michigan and
they're talking who's the best

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quarterback to play the game?
And you got a Michigan person

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you got and you got two other
people from from other other

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camps.
Now, will they ever agree about

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who was the the best
quarterback?

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No.
Exactly.

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Right.
But then all of a sudden, a

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bunch of ice hockey players just
crash into the pub.

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Yeah.
What's immediately changed to

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the conversation?
What sport they're talking

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about?
Exactly.

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It's not what quarterbacks the
best.

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The conversation is just
elevated to a unifying question,

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which is what's the best sport?
And so if they don't do that,

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then three blokes will be
destroyed by, you know, the

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whole swamp of ice hockey
fanatics which have just stormed

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in.
So or they might actually all

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get along over an ice cold beer
around a nice warm fire.

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We don't know.
But the the point is what

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happens is, is we elevate the
question to a unifying

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principle.
And when we start to do that,

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that comes from vision that like
there is not a leader of the

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country, not not a leader that
I've found at the moment in, in

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democracies, which is actually
painting a unifying division.

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Sorry, a unifying, unifying
vision.

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That was a Freudian slip, wasn't
it?

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That they are all, they are all
in.

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It's some form of dystopia, some
form of negativity, some form

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of, you know, there's an
apocalypse on the, on the the

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figure.
But your slip is accurate, where

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they're presenting unifying
division to get that one tribe

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unified in its divisiveness.
Divisiveness.

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Exactly.
So the, the, the point is that

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we, it's, it's possibly time
that we start asking questions.

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And in my humble opinion, the,
the, the biggest pandemic we had

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in the last four years was the
lack of critical thinking.

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And lack critical thinking goes
out the window when we're in

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fear because our rational
cognitive mind actually starts

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to slip.
And not only that, when that

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happens, group think starts to
come in, in that is linked to

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00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,400
fear.
So what what tends to happen is

454
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,560
is you, you become divided.
Not only that you'll become

455
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,040
ostracized and you might simply
be asking a question which is

456
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,360
actually designed to unify, but
the even the unifying question

457
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,320
will get knocked on the head.
I mentioned Eric Fromm.

458
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,880
The thing he said in his book
Escape from Freedom was the

459
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,840
further a man moves away from
his source, the more he will

460
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,200
fight to have his freedom taken
from him.

461
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,840
That's a pretty powerful
statement.

462
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,520
So the, the, the point that I'm,
I'm suggesting to people at the

463
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,840
moment, if you want to create
something amazing for your not

464
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,760
just your kids, but your
grandkids, is it starts with you

465
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,560
and it starts in love.
It doesn't start from the womb,

466
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,200
but in communities.
What I teach them is, is a

467
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,840
community that doesn't have
conflict is actually destined to

468
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,680
destruction.
They'll destined to stagnate and

469
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000
then they'll destroy themselves
because what happens is things

470
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,760
get pushed under the carpet.
It's not that you don't have

471
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,120
conflict because conflict
actually.

472
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,720
And anger is an emotion.
Anger's all about change.

473
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,080
Anger's asking us to change.
It's why it's a, a vocal emotion

474
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,720
too.
It's an energizing emotions

475
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,160
because of because of what it's
asking for.

476
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,600
And it will get locked jaw and
grinding of teeth.

477
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,120
It's all related to, to the
suppression of anger.

478
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,440
So it's not that you, you've got
conflict or not, sorry if you,

479
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,120
it's not that the conflict's a
bad thing, it's that it's a

480
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,160
symptom of other things.
So a community or an

481
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,640
organization that doesn't have a
conflict resolution, that it's

482
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240
not just conflict resolution.
What I, what I teach people is

483
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,800
conflicts are simply symptoms of
other things at play.

484
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,880
And so by actually understanding
this and going in and finding

485
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,000
the causal issue, but not just
finding the causal issue as

486
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,920
leaders, so often people leaders
will jump in and try and fix it.

487
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560
There's nothing to fix.
Matter of fact, a vision which

488
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,320
is actually built on trying to
fix something or solve a problem

489
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,520
is not going to grow too much.
It's going to have a very short,

490
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,120
like small expansion.
And if you look at most science

491
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,160
and other things at the moment,
they're all about fixing

492
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,320
something or solving a problem
instead of creating something

493
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,000
completely new that's
revolutionary.

494
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,960
And that goes into the field of
chaos, actually chaos theory.

495
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,360
But come back to this point,
it's like if I, if I as a

496
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:54,600
leader, identify the, the issue
and then go and solve it, is my

497
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280
team in power to do the same or
will they always need me as the

498
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,480
leader?
So what I've been trying to

499
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,880
explain to people is one of the,
the, the principles of harmonic

500
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,320
leadership is to understand,
help your team identify the

501
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,240
dysfunction and then empower
your team with the systems to

502
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,240
actually heal that wound and
grow from that wound.

503
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,600
And when you do that, all of a
sudden you get what's it's, it's

504
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,400
in, in a number of leadership
circles, it's called cellular

505
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,560
cellular leadership.
You get a suite, suite of

506
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,600
self-sustaining cells that are
actually can self perpetuate.

507
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,280
And as long as the river holds
the river is the bank and the

508
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,200
floor of the river, which is
your, your values and your

509
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,960
vision and your direction.
As long as you've got that set,

510
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,320
then you've got all these things
moving along at a very, very

511
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,200
rapid rate.
And that's when you can get

512
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,440
exponential movement growth.
And not only that, it will be as

513
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,000
long as the right philosophy has
been underpinned by everything,

514
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,760
then what you'll get is you'll
get a better outcome.

515
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,880
You'll get a better, more
attuned and organically

516
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,160
developed outcome for that group
so it will fit better as opposed

517
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,400
to a projected or imposed.
Again, all sorts of flashbacks

518
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,640
to training I had like back in
2010, and it's something I help

519
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,520
clients with now, but it was one
of the first steps I did when

520
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,200
working with a coach was was
clarify my values.

521
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,320
And the first time I did the
exercise, my top value was

522
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,800
safety.
And realizing that was rooted in

523
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,040
fear.
That's when I first heard of

524
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,520
like, Oh my God, yeah, I'm
rooted in fear.

525
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,600
So really revalue that and
changed my whole really world

526
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,880
view by having that discovery
that I was living from fear.

527
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,640
But another thing we did, and I
do love the the freedom forces

528
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,760
force book and I I have that
print out.

529
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,920
It's right over there on my
wall.

530
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,360
But in in energy work in an
energy coaching program I

531
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:54,720
completed again back in 2010.
There was a a way would

532
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,640
visualize turning up your
vibration and it literally was

533
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,200
visualizing a volume knob.
And if I'm feeling shame and we

534
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,800
would like, oh, turn the volume
down on that.

535
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,000
And if you want to feel
authenticity, if you want to

536
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,440
feel Lovejoy, picture that knob
and turn it up as far as you

537
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,120
can.
And, and, and forget to people

538
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,440
to really feel that we'd get him
in a meditative state and

539
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,840
visualize a knob and say turn up
joy and now turn it down.

540
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,480
And they would feel it just to
prove to people that this is

541
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,160
doing something to go, go take
it all the way down to 0 or one

542
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,120
and then go back up to like
seven or eight.

543
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,480
And, and like they would feel in
their own bodies, in their

544
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,080
minds, in their soul, this
difference by visualizing a

545
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,280
knob.
But we are all way more in

546
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,040
control of our energy, of our
values, of our choices then

547
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,840
we're ever taught.
Unless someone lives in a

548
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,200
community that you show up in
and teaches about leadership and

549
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,320
governance and and how to
structure everything.

550
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640
So yeah.
And that's, that's a fascinating

551
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,000
thing.
Like we, there's, there is a, a

552
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760
large narrative at the moment,
you know, we don't understand as

553
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,120
human beings how powerful we
are.

554
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,880
And I completely agree with this
and I understand it.

555
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160
The, the one of the issues
though, is that, well, it's not

556
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,760
too much of an issue because
what it is, is, is, is a vision.

557
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,160
Like it's it's way out there and
people go, well, you know, how

558
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760
do I get there?
When the students ready, the

559
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,040
teacher will appear and the
teacher can be in in more

560
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,480
realities than not.
The the teacher will show up in

561
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,120
a very toxic way and we just
don't see it as a teacher.

562
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,120
This is comes back to this point
about alchemism, chaos and

563
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,840
alchemy like goes back to the
ancient Hermetic belief system

564
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,120
coming out of of ancient commit,
which is the preceder of Egypt.

565
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,160
So the the point there is that
instead of letting go of

566
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:49,000
anything, it's to realize that
if I let everything dissolve

567
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,480
into its pure state, what will
be birthed is the new reality.

568
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,840
So there has to be a death for
the birth to occur.

569
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600
It's like when I often ask,
what's the what's the opposite

570
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480
of death?
And most people will turn around

571
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,480
and say life.
No, it's not.

572
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,480
Birth is the opposite of death.
We just forget that in any

573
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,440
moment, like we'll have a suite
of, of deaths and birth.

574
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,520
So I woke at 2:00 last night and
I was meditating because I was

575
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,840
awake and I, it was like this
and a beautiful joy came over me

576
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,440
because I realized I was
meditating.

577
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,600
And, you know, in the past when
I was, you know, in not a good

578
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,560
way, I'd get annoyed at waking
at that hour because I've got

579
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,400
stuff to do today.
So I'd be tired instead.

580
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200
Now it's like this realization
I'm awake for a reason.

581
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,720
So embrace the moment.
So there's no, there's no fight.

582
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,240
There's actually an embracing.
It's not even a surrender.

583
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,560
It's an embracing of that that
actual moment.

584
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,480
Funnily enough, I don't think I
was awake for too much longer,

585
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:58,680
but the this this alchemizing
occurs when I completely allowed

586
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,280
to dissolve like the phoenix
dying in its own ashes and then

587
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,480
it and then it's reborn.
But what's more often than not,

588
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,240
people don't realise and there's
a lot of people in energetic

589
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,840
healing spaces that I've worked
with.

590
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,920
They'll come to me and they'll
be scratching their head and

591
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400
they're saying, James, you know,
I keep hitting a glass ceiling.

592
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,440
And this vision of being
infinitely powerful is just why?

593
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200
It's just, it's too far to to
reach.

594
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,680
Well, The thing is that doesn't
mean to say it's the wrong

595
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,400
vision, by the way.
It's creating a void, and

596
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,520
leaders create voids by placing
visions which appear

597
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,120
insurmountable.
And that actually cracks a

598
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
mindset.
It's like Henry Ford when he

599
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,680
invented or he didn't invent it,
but his engineers invented the

600
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280
V8 engine.
And that story is really quite

601
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,280
powerful when he said he drew a
schematic of what he wanted and

602
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,640
his scientists said they can't
do it.

603
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240
So he sacked his scientists.
More engineers came in and said

604
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,440
we can't do it, and he sacked
them again until he found a

605
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,960
group of people that could,
could actually not only see his

606
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640
vision, but had the capability
of building the bridge to

607
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,680
actually achieve it.
That's why we have the V8 engine

608
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,760
there.
And when we look at that, we go,

609
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,960
OK, well, our, our forms of
governance and governing at the

610
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,560
moment is, is really, you know,
quite regularly it's

611
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,720
narcissistic.
It's a go.

612
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,120
It gets very short term.
They're looking for the election

613
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
cycles in Australia.
Realistically, even though we

614
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,640
have a four term, four year
period term in government,

615
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,000
realistically you're looking at
an election cycle of around 18

616
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,400
months.
Now before they actually go on

617
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,520
the the train of slightly slowly
bringing in the nuances of, of

618
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,360
saying I should be re elected
and you go, you can get wrapped

619
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,320
up in that and there's so much
drama.

620
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,400
And then then I asked the
question or how does it affect

621
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320
your life?
And they'll throw all these

622
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,080
reasons at me.
Now.

623
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,160
The only reason why it affects
their life is because they

624
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,200
choose to allow it to.
It doesn't actually affect my

625
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,440
life.
Cool.

626
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,160
If you, if you want to go and,
and say that stuff and, and do

627
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,560
that, there's people have very
short term memories nowadays and

628
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520
the I actually don't.
I have quite a, a good memory

629
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,600
and quite a a long term memory.
So I don't need to be affected

630
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560
by that.
And in this moment, I can go, I

631
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,600
can, can, can go, right?
Where am I?

632
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Where do I want to be?
And what's my first step in

633
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,320
everything?
They come back to this point

634
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,880
about alchemizing.
Alchemizing will require

635
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,320
destruction of a paradigm always
because the Einstein said it.

636
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,040
You know, you can't solve the
same problem at the level of the

637
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,360
problem was actually created.
It has to.

638
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640
He was talking.
Talking alchemically.

639
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,120
In essence.
Einstein was an alchemist.

640
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Carl Jung was an alchemist, for
crying out loud.

641
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,160
I've got a beautiful book of
Jung's here.

642
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,920
It's like psychology and
alchemy.

643
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,560
Isaac Newton was an alchemist.
He tasted mercury for 40 years

644
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680
of his life every morning and
there was 1,000,000 parchments

645
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680
that was sold by his family in
1939.

646
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,960
Sorry, 1935, that we're very
alchemistic.

647
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,880
And the reason why they locked
him up in the trunk and didn't

648
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,080
let anyone know was because they
didn't want his name tarnished.

649
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,160
Because back then in the late
17th century, it was like still

650
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,560
like when Isaac was born.
I think it was about only a few

651
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,000
years before, like a decade
before, someone has still been

652
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
burned at the stake for heresy.
So you had to be very careful

653
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,639
back then what you said.
Well, funnily enough, what

654
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,199
happened to a lot of people in
the last four years is they got

655
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,560
burned at the stake
metaphorically.

656
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,840
So, you know, we can say our
times were different.

657
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,719
Times are different.
Well, actually, are they too

658
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,560
much?
And so the, the underlying

659
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,600
principles remain the same.
And that is, if we're, if we're

660
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,080
to create from a place of love,
then I have to let go of the

661
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,520
paradigms which are fair and
constructed by fear, which

662
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,159
therefore means I have to go
through my levels of denial

663
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,199
because and I have to get
uncomfortable.

664
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,920
And that discomfort is the wound
festering and coming up.

665
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,639
Now, as we've known from
medicine times, you know, time

666
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:53,639
immemorial, the, the medicine is
actually deep in the wound and

667
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,840
it's like trauma.
The actual medicine is in the

668
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,120
trauma because you can't
completely heal from trauma

669
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,960
unless you've, you've released
the emotional attachment to the

670
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,640
1st century image within the
mind, sight, sound, taste, touch

671
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,240
and smell.
And it's bonded at the

672
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,280
subconscious level with actual
emotion.

673
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,240
And that emotion has to be let
go of because then what can

674
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:18,120
happen is the image just can
sit, but then the context of the

675
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,560
image can come.
And what happens with context,

676
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,160
meaning appears.
And when I get meaning, I get

677
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,680
the lesson and then I can evolve
from the situation.

678
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480
But what like what our hero
worship of resilience is doing

679
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,760
at the moment is it's saying
like under the like a scientific

680
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,800
definition of resilience is that
it resilience is the ability for

681
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,400
an object to take an impact and
then rebound back to its its

682
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,720
previous natural state.
So if you then put that into

683
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,000
like an analogy of the your
psychology and you put into

684
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,200
trauma, you've been impacted by
something and then you've got to

685
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,280
go back to the pre impact state,
which means you've got to let go

686
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,440
of the scar.
And you even hear this in

687
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,800
people's words, they'll say, I
just wish it was the way it was.

688
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,800
I just wish you were the person
that you were before, etcetera,

689
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,280
etcetera.
So what they're asking you to do

690
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,280
is remove anything that life was
trying to teach you in that

691
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,520
moment, which is saying life has
no interaction with you.

692
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,520
You're in an isolated aspect of
your environment, which we also

693
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,320
know is not true.
So when we let go of the concept

694
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640
of resilience, funnily enough,
we also can then move into a

695
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,720
place where we might actually be
able to let go of what's called

696
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,120
trauma, because trauma is simply
where the psyche actually

697
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,280
vacates the body because of the
emotional suppression and

698
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,160
stagnation which all energy work
attempts to remove.

699
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,600
Psychology attempts to in
certain ways as well, but we

700
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,680
know that talk therapy is only
about 30% effective because it

701
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,160
doesn't actually connect to the
emotional stagnation which has

702
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,800
occurred.
And for the psyche.

703
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,800
And where does psyche come from?
The etymology of the word psyche

704
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000
in Greek is soul.
So in essence the soul is not

705
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,240
allowed to embody into our our
place.

706
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:04,040
So if we want to come from a
place of love, then I actually

707
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,720
have to embody everything, which
means I have to have let go of

708
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,800
the old concept or paradigm
which brought the, the

709
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,840
perception of trauma in the
first place.

710
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,600
And I do that through the
healing, which is necessary,

711
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,160
letting go of the emotion and
then the reframing of the

712
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,880
situation.
And in that reframing, the

713
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,640
context provides the meaning.
And then I can actually from

714
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120
that meaning embedded into the
lesson, which then creates my

715
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,160
future.
And that then I move through

716
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,440
what's called post traumatic
growth.

717
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,320
And I'm, I'm beyond post
traumatic growth now because I

718
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,840
have no identity whatsoever to
and no need for that other

719
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,400
stuff.
It happened and I'm immensely

720
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,160
grateful, but I don't have a
need for it because there's no

721
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,920
identifying with it.
So I'm, I'm loving all this talk

722
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,560
and how, how this all falls
under kind of the harmonic

723
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,240
leadership which you mentioned a
couple of times.

724
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,440
So I know you have a program all
all about that.

725
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,320
Why?
Why don't you tell me about

726
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,680
that?
Yeah, I've got a three month

727
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,320
online program coming up in
starting on the 14th of August

728
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Australian time.
And the, the whole premise of

729
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,280
that is, is at the moment, there
are more and more people who are

730
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,520
stepping up and they're going,
there has to be another way.

731
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,600
And I really actually want to
learn from, I want to not only

732
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,400
learn from love, but I want to
lead from love.

733
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,560
I want to understand how to be
the better person.

734
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080
So not just for me, but for
possibly my organization, my

735
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,240
family, my whoever it is that
they want to affect them within

736
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,360
the world.
And I want to do that in a

737
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,320
different way in which, you
know, challenges me to grow.

738
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,560
It challenges me to be connected
into whatever spiritual essence

739
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,000
is that I actually hold.
Whatever language that is, it's

740
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,800
fine.
Doesn't matter as long as you've

741
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,320
got one.
And if you know, you just

742
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,440
harbour the psychological
understanding of life.

743
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,480
It's just, you know, essence
connecting to your true self.

744
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,320
So it doesn't matter what it is,
just as long as you've got the

745
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,400
architecture.
So and that the program will

746
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,120
will deeply take you into an
understanding of how your your

747
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,240
leadership personality and what
your wires and your wires are

748
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,200
really, really important.
Because if it's not connected to

749
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,160
an inspiration coming from the
word Inspiritus or, and from

750
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,360
source, then you'll ebb and flow
as a leader.

751
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,600
And you, you won't be able to
influence as many people as you

752
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,520
want.
You'll find that you'll get

753
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,320
exhausted and you know, great
ideas will, will come and go.

754
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,960
They can't be grounded into
reality, which is what I'm

755
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,520
finding now is more and more
people saying that enough,

756
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,760
There's a line in the sand.
I've got a great idea.

757
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,560
And I really, I'm, I really
wanted to, to come into

758
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,760
realization, to come into
manifestation or creation.

759
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,560
And so that's what harmonic
leadership program shows you how

760
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,360
to do it.
It shows you how to identify not

761
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,080
only the blocks within yourself,
but those blocks are actually

762
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,520
lessons just wanting to be
learnt.

763
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,240
And so it helps you learn the
process to do that, which then

764
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,880
is replicatable to you and the
way you lead, which actually

765
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,360
then empowers your team.
So you empower your team to

766
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,800
actually unify together to
actually go and create something

767
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,880
even bigger, which gets to the
third phase of a harmonic

768
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,520
leadership, which is amplifying
your effect.

769
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040
And so in three months they take
you right through this.

770
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,120
There is a residential, but if
anyone wants to come to

771
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Australia, that's awesome.
It's, it's, it's only going to

772
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,520
be for around 20 people.
I'm keeping it, keeping it

773
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,840
relatively small.
But the actual, the, that's the

774
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,120
residential.
But the online program's open to

775
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,680
anyone because it, there's an
aspect of group stuff.

776
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,360
There's webinars quite regularly
and there's and they also have

777
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,080
the ability to come and have
one-on-one sessions with me too.

778
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:20,680
Awesome.
So what?

779
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,360
Where should people go to learn
more about that program and

780
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,760
about everything else that
you're up to?

781
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,920
Well, the best thing to do is
just just connect with me.

782
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,840
One of the easiest ways is to do
it on Facebook.

783
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,480
I'm just James Greenshields and
make you very kindly putting the

784
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,680
links on the podcast comments
below.

785
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,200
And I, you know, but the other
one is to just send a message

786
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,080
directly to me and say, hey,
James, I'm interested and I'll

787
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,120
set up a time to talk because
one of the things that I've

788
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,800
realised about programs is they
don't necessarily fit everyone.

789
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,280
And so I want for the best thing
for the group.

790
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,880
And again, now as a leader, I'm
thinking of the group within the

791
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,560
within the actual program.
The best thing for the group is

792
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,080
that the program actually fits
you.

793
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,840
So we'll have a conversation.
We'll just make sure it fits and

794
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,400
and your objectives are
commensurate to what the actual

795
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360
course will provide.
And then, yeah, we'll lock in

796
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,920
and we'll roll from there.
So yeah, reach out, message me.

797
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Probably Facebook's the easiest.
If you put my e-mail address in

798
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,360
there, I don't mind people
emailing me as well directly.

799
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,440
And yeah, we can have a
conversation.

800
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,240
Well, we need to have
conversations more often than

801
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,920
we've had them recently or not
so recently I should say.

802
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,040
But it's it's always great to
connect with you and there

803
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,760
there's already so many
synchronicities between what

804
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,720
we're both doing it.
It's really I I really find it

805
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:40,080
personally just beyond
interesting.

806
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,240
And we'll definitely get to keep
talking even without being

807
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,080
recorded.
But James, thanks again for

808
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,480
joining us, everybody listening.
Thank you for joining us.

809
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,120
You can visit realmenfeel.org.
See the blog post for this

810
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,400
episode.
We'll have links to everything

811
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,040
discussed, all the books and all
the ways to connect with James.

812
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680
And you can check out his
harmonic leadership program.

813
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,760
Wherever you were discovering
real men feel, please subscribe,

814
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160
follow, like, share this with
someone that would get value

815
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,160
from it as much as you did.
Post a review, a comment,

816
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
whatever you can do, wherever
you're listening, you can always

817
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,560
reach out to me at
realmenfieldgmail.com.

818
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,320
I'll always glad to hear from
you and until next time, be good

819
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,880
to yourself.