Leadership, Passion, and Purpose: From Compton to the White House with Darrell Williams

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It's a way to horrify man is to
say sit down, honey, we need to

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talk and then sit directly
across from him and like, oh,

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no, yeah, that's panic.
They want to run.

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Yeah, we need something else to
do.

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Absolutely.
Absolutely right.

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Hello and welcome to Real Men
Feel.

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This is your host, author, coach
and healer, Andy Grant.

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You can visit theandygrant.com
to learn more about me.

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Real Men Feel reminds men that
they human beings and have the

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right to experience and express
all of their emotions.

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We have conversations that most
men are not having, but that all

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men and the women who love them
can benefit from.

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My guest today is Darryl
Williams.

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Darryl is a member of the White
House Communications Agency Hall

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of Fame.
He is also the CEO of Alliance

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Seminars Coaching, a veteran
owned faith-based organization

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focused on leadership,
relationships and purpose.

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Today he shares multiple Nuggets
of what being a good leader

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truly entails, the importance of
focusing on your strengths, and

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his belief that everyone has
something they are great at.

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Darryl talks about his journey
from Compton, CA to working at

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the White House and how much
passion matters and how little

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comparison helps us.
Let's do it.

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Hello Darryl, and welcome to
Real.

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Men feel.
Thank you, Andy.

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Glad to be here.
You have had quite a remarkable

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career in leadership with 20
years in the Army, with working

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in the White House for multiple
administrations.

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Is that the sort of future and
career that you foresaw when you

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were a kid growing up?
Absolutely not, that was not

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even a thought process.
I'm not sure if I sent it in my

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bio, but I actually grew up in
Compton, CA.

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So though they saw the movie
Boyz N the Hood, that's the era

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that I grew up in and my
brothers and sister grew up in

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the era straight out of Compton
and that was my background

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growing up and had no idea what
the future would old.

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Was it a lot of synchronicities?
Was it people reaching out to

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you?
Like what?

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What got you from Compton to the
White House?

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So really the first thing was,
it was the military.

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I ran into a recruiter right
after my junior year, leading

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into my senior year, and I
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going to do.
Andy I I mean, he had thoughts

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of like every other 17 year old,
like I'll figure it out, you

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know, and then I rent a
recruiter and I didn't really

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want to talk to him, but he was
just so compelling.

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Andy I mean, he so he opened up
his book, showed me some prices

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of what colleges cost.
And I think the light bulb went

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on like, hey, your family cannot
afford any of this.

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You need to figure this out
right now.

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Take advantage of this.
And he sold me on it, went home

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and told my parents, OK, I know
what I'm going to do after high

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school.
I'm going to join the military

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as AHR professional kind of what
it is now.

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But at that time, it was an
administrative specialist and

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that really just kind of
launched me to a career that I

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had no idea what was ahead.
Did you quickly develop a a

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skill and taste for leadership,
or is that something that the

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military really developed over
time for you?

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So I think that I had a little
bit of it because one thing I

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always tell people to speak at
schools is, you know, first

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person you lead is yourself,
right?

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Making good decisions, not
following the crowd, determining

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that I'm going to be different,
even if I'm the first in my

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family to do whatever.
So I kind of had those things

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inside, but it definitely did
not come out fully until I

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joined the military and I saw
these cool guys with all this

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rink on their shoulder and their
starch uniform, their shiny

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boots, And it was like, I want
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So again, if the first person
you lead is yourself, then is is

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a kind of a, a, a myth about
leadership that is really about

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handling other people.
It really does start with self

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management.
I think it does start with self

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because no matter what you do,
even a self management, if

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you're not walking the walk and
talking to talk yourself, you're

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just not going to be effective.
People are not going to follow

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you, right?
They're just going to wait you

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out because they don't see the
sincerity in what you're doing.

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But if you really are about, OK,
I'm leading myself to make good

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decisions and now next you're my
next priority.

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Like I need to take care of you.
I'm not here from myself.

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Then people, you know, they're
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that.
And when they see like, OK, this

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guy is consistently taking care
of us.

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He consistently putting us in
for awards.

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He's standing up for us, OK?
He's the real deal.

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And how did was it the military
that that eventually like placed

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you in the White House?
Was was that still in the

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military?
It was because in the military

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there's kind of different routes
you can go. 1 is that normal?

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Traditional assignment, right?
The Fort Hoods, the Fort

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Bragg's, you know, those type of
work.

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Then there's what they call
special assignments, right?

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And these are individuals that
they give you a security

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clearance.
They trust you to be able to

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again, be self motivated, do PT
on your own.

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You're going to go to a place
such as the Pentagon or other

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agencies and they really depend
on you to be a self starter in a

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sense.
I know you were in the White

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House for some pretty critical
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What are what are some of the
biggest lessons you learned from

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from serving at such A at such a
high point?

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I think one of the biggest
things was have been there with

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to adjust to take care of your
team when the president, vice

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president, first lady travel
couple organization that support

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them where you had the White
House staff where I keep the

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schedule Secret Service who
protect them or White House

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military office, you know,
providing the planes and the

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limos and things of that nature.
But then there is our

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organization which was White
House communications agency.

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So I mean, every piece of
equipment that the president or

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vice president touches come from
our organization.

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So when he travels, our team
would have to go out a week

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ahead of time for stateside
trips and then two weeks ahead

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of time for overseas trips.
And every time you went out to

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support, it was a different
team, different mission.

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So I had to learn quickly, like,
OK, Andy was on my last trips.

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Good.
So I know Andy temperament, I

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know what he likes.
And then I have to learn these

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other team leads because I was
the second in charge next to a

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communications officer.
So every trip you had like

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within a couple of days, you got
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temperament, their style, what
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LED.
There are strengths, there are

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areas that can be improved.
And just doing that every single

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time, it really helped me out as
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Now, I know from prior
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you bought, you've stressed that
you serve the office and that no

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one of your position was was
really political.

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We are at such a a time of rapid
change at the federal government

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and you know a lot of career
people that imagine might be

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like yourself are are being
eliminated for cost cutting and

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things does does that raise any
concerns for you it.

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Raises concerns, but as a
certified life coach and I work

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with a lot of different leaders
and employees, one thing I

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coached him to do is you can
only control the thing that you

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could control, right?
So if your environment is, you

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know, kind of unstable and you
have concerns that, hey, you

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know, this may not work out, I
start working on the individual.

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What can you do?
Right?

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Well, I'm thinking about
changing roles.

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OK, where did that start?
Right?

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What does your resume look like
now?

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What do you think it needs to
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How do we need to tailor that
toward whatever industry you

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want to jump to interview
skilled once the last time you

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interviewed for a job, right?
What can we do to get that?

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So my big focus with people is
helping them understand you can

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only control what you could
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So you might as well do the best
that you can with that, OK?

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And at times, when everything
feels out of control, is it

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just, you know, look for that
one step that you can take?

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You absolutely have to do that
right, because there's always

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another step you can take.
There's always another move you

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can make and then also talk to
people and and let them know

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they can't walk this life by
yourself, right?

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Everybody has a mentor and
accountability partner.

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Sometimes you may not recognize
those roles, but I find it

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there's always people around you
that have your best interests at

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heart.
They care about you.

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Andy the person.
No, not Andy the podcast guests,

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I mean host.
And you got to find in no time

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lean on those type of people
because sometimes your strengths

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can be zapped and you got to
find a way to get refilled.

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You know, I like how you, you
said that that everybody does

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have a mentor and accountability
partner.

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They just might not be called
that.

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So yeah, so 'cause I would, but
you said it like, wow, that's

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not true.
But then as you explained, like,

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Oh yeah, that that I appreciate
that they don't have to be have

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a certification or been assigned
to you from some program.

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They just naturally in your
life.

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Absolutely.
And it's amazing, All right,

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When I ask people questions
because I never give them the

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answer, I help them figure it
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When I start asking, like, for
example, when's the last time

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your life was chaotic?
And then they'll quickly bring

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up my moment.
And then it's like, tell me

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about that moment.
OK, got it.

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Tell me some of the things you
did to get through that moment.

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And as they're describing it,
Andy, they start realizing, wait

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a minute, my neighbor pitched in
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Hey, the local community pitched
in a lot.

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People came and babysitted for
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And we felt like, right, we
didn't have any energy to take

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care of the, you know, the
newborn anymore.

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And then they find out they had
this whole village there, that

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it might not have been called a
village, but the people were

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there.
They were in place.

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So just like that can happen for
a family, it can also happen for

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an individual.
As you were rising up to the

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ranks compared to now, were
there the same kind of

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misconceptions about leadership
or have they changed over time?

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Oh, they have definitely changed
over time.

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When I joined the military and
the the drill sergeants were

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king and queen, you didn't
question the authority, you just

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kept your mouth closed and did
what you had to do.

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And then when you got out of
basic training and ART and went

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to your normal units, it was the
same thing, right?

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Whatever the leader says, you
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And then midway through my
career, you started seeing a

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different caliber of soldier
come in, right?

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They asked questions.
They were already educated.

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And what I found was the older
supervisors that I work with,

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they looked at that as
insubordination.

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How dare?
Andy asked me, why am I doing

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this?
You're doing it because I told

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you to do it.
But I found out that the people

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were changing.
So it wasn't that they didn't

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want to do it.
They just wanted to know why.

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So I had to easily adapt my
style to the new people that I

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was leading.
And I would have more meetings

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that I would used to have and
say, hey, tomorrow we're going

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to do this.
Here's why we're doing it.

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Here's the consequences if we
don't do this right.

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Here's all the people that we
will let down if we won't

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develop this new skill and
master this new piece of

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equipment that we have to, you
know, bring into the workspace.

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Andy, once they understood it,
they were like Goddess Harm

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Williams and makes sense.
What can I do to help?

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And then it was up to me to say,
well, you're pretty good and

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electronic, so why don't you
take that manual home tonight,

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see if you can read up on some
things that then when we come

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tomorrow, it's not just me
teaching this, but I want

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everybody's input.
And that's when you started

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finding out the leadership style
of just do it, do it, do it.

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It was good for that time and
it's good for certain scenarios.

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But bringing in that team
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you picked up as we were looking
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What did you notice, right?
What are some way do you think

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we can employ this and getting
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team buy in.
It wasn't just me making them do

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it, but we all had a invested
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adaptability.
The this wasn't like the army

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realized, oh, when sundown new
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people are changing.
We need to change.

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So this was your own experience.
How how supported is that?

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Did you get sent?
Did people notice you and go out

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of that?
Darrell's doing things a little

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different and weird.
I'm not sure if this is going to

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work or did you just trust your
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So I just trust my own
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And again, I started leaning on
those mentors that I had and

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said, hey, here's what I'm
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Here's the difference in the
team that I'm leading.

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And those mentors were fantastic
because Andy, they were forward

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thinkers.
Like they challenged me and

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said, hey, what if the military
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middle of this change?
How can you get ahead of it?

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How can you take advantage of
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How can you take what you
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have the standard we call
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LDP, right?
What if you volunteered and LED

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some of these sessions and
brought in some of these new

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tools and new skills?
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Instead of just saying we're
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not going to get it.
It was like, hey, let me tell

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you what I'm noticing and what
are you noticing A lot of those

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old timers like, you know what,
I did go off with a couple of

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these young whipper sempers
thinking that they were, you

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know, not paying attention and
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just inquisitive.
So the more we develop the space

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for people to talk about it
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carrying this macho image of no
matter what, you know, the

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Army's not going to change me.
No, no, no, no.

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The Army still needs you.
And those young leaders need to

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hear your experience.
All they want to know is instead

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of you attacking the hill, it
was why did you attack the hill?

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What would you have done if the
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Right?
And what did you learn from

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attacking the hill that you wish
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So it was just a different style
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leadership was still required.
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And then the the end result, the
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was just how are you going to
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The most efficient way it seems.
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a coach, I've seen you talk
about maximizing, maximizing

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your call often Can can you tell
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A lot of times I used to go to

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the schools and talk and I would
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You know, what do you want to do
when you grow up or you know,

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what do you see yourself doing?
But I would change it based on a

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lot of times they don't know.
So you're in the stuck with all

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this empty space.
So I changed it Andy, to more of

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and I do this with the adults.
What do you find yourself good

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at?
What comes natural to you that

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makes you feel really good?
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stuff, Andy, like, man, when I
get, you know, a hammer or tools

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in my hand, I just feel like I
could create anything like, OK,

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hang on to that thought.
Get really wrong with that.

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Somebody else says, man, I love
just taking the computer apart

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and then trying to figure out
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OK, hold that thought.
What about you, Mayor used to

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hang out in the front yard with
my dad, watching him take a car

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apart and then him explain it to
me what each piece of.

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So basically what I would do is
challenge their experiences and

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say, why do you think that
memory came right away?

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It didn't even you didn't even
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And what they found out Andy was
that's what they were passionate

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about.
So I try to help people identify

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their passion right away.
And then from there, it's like,

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Clayton, how do we pivot to your
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So what are some things, what
are some tools, what are some

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training that you can do to kind
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And what are common blocks that
people struggle with to identify

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their their passions or their
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Oh, wow.
One of the biggest things, Andy,

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is they compare themselves to
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It's like me and Andy, you know,
he said on his podcast and you

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know, he got, you know, 1000
shows in three months.

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Like, I don't know if I can do
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Well, Andy has a different
approach.

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So instead of trying to copy
Andy's approach, what do you

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think your approach should be,
right?

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What topics do you want to talk
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How do you want your podcasts to
be different versus trying to

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copy somebody else?
So I think the biggest thing is

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how many people realize, don't
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Learn from others, admire how
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And then when you talk to the
Andy's of the world as you're

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trying to walk into this new
industry, you know, ask the Andy

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of the world, Hey, what did you
learn in the beginning when you

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started doing podcasting?
What were some of your early

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challenges?
All right.

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How did you have to pivot, you
know, from guests that just, you

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know, tricked you and got on
there to talk about their book

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versus what they really were
supposed to talk about, which is

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real men?
All right, I'm going to, I'm

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going to put this on you, my
friend.

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What did you learn?
What did what?

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What did you discover as as
you're initially going out into

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the speaking world?
Though one of the biggest things

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I had to find out was you got to
tell your own story.

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You got to find.
So that's one thing in front of

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all different speakers.
I got ready to start and I'm

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studying all the different
speakers, looking at their

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topics and it's like, oh, I can
talk about that.

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Oh, I could talk about that.
But then you realize if you do

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talk about that, from what
perspective are you going to

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talk about it?
So instead of trying to mimic a

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Les Brown or a John Maxwell,
even though I, I truly love

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leadership, I found that I had
to talk about leadership from my

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own experience.
And the more I did that, even

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going back to Compton where
people would say, how did you

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not join a gang, right?
How did you not get caught up in

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the selling drugs?
And then I just started talking

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about the leadership around me
or like, I had a couple of guys

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around me that we didn't want to
do that type of stuff, right?

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So I had to make a conscious
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And it's, it's, it's funny.
It's almost like when God will

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come to you and say, Hey, you
know, got this plan for you, you

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make some fast bucks.
And then I would kind of be

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witty with it.
And I'll say something like,

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well, you know, I, I get that.
I appreciate that, But you know

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what, I'm going to go a
different route, right?

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The same energy and the passion
that you have for selling that.

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Let me see if I can use that
energy in a different way.

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And they were like, oh, wow,
that's all right, young buck.

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OK, I, I, I respect that.
So it wasn't me putting them

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down or trying to like, oh,
taboo.

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It's like, no, no, no, no.
You have a plan.

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Your plan is different.
But guess what?

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You still have motivation.
You still have drive, right?

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You still have intellect.
You're just using it in a way

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that you don't realize can be
used in a total different

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opposite way, in more of a
positive manner.

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So instead of me, you know,
talking down all the ground, I

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just kind of flip the script and
told him, you know, I like your

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ingenuity.
I'm going to see if I can use

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that in a different way.
So it's like, it sounds like you

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were already quite a mentor at
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I was trying because that's one
thing you learned growing up in

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Compton, like you don't want to
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You want to be a know it all
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So I found really one thing I
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of study people and find out
what they were good.

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I like his great story had a guy
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the gangsters who would come to
class every now and then and

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when he came to class,
especially our math class, Andy,

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the guy was genius.
He sit in the back.

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This is back in the day.
So we write on the chalkboard

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and the teacher already has the
you know, the the answer and

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basic or the formula.
We had to figure out the answer

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and I got all my paper out.
Andy, I'm trying to figure this

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out, you know, 2X times, 3X is
this carry this?

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gangster was like, oh, X = 5,

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just like that.
No writing, no anything, Andy.

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And I'm still doing it.
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I do you should like totally
come to class and make all of us

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look bad.
And he was like, no, no, I know

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what you're trying to do.
I'm not coming to class.

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It's not Martin.
I'm just coming because I don't

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have anything to do today.
But just trying to find that one

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thing about that person that
they're good at and just

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complimenting them and
reassuring them.

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Like a man, you got a lot going
on for you when not if.

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But man, whenever you get a
chance to change that thing

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around and you're going to be
just amazing.

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And people would feel like, wow,
that's the first person that

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didn't talk about me because I
was in the game.

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Does everybody have something
that they're good at?

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Absolutely, absolutely.
I've, I've talked to people,

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Andy, that says real.
You don't know my childhood,

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right?
My dad left my mom.

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My mom raised all three of us.
I didn't have a true role model.

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OK, maybe you didn't have the
role model that you thought you

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needed to have, but did you play
sports?

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Oh, yeah.
That's what saved me.

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Like, really?
How coach was this coach with

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that?
He taught us discipline.

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He taught us ethics and all this
good stuff.

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Sportsmanship, I think.
But you were a pretty good

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athlete.
Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, I was good.
I was decent.

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Like.
So there's something tangible

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about you being a great athlete
and you not giving your mom the

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problem that you could have gave
her.

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Why didn't you do that?
Oh, no.

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There's no way I could do that
to my mom.

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She sacrificed much.
I had to, you know, do things

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the different way.
I had to grow up faster than I

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wanted.
So guess what?

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That tells me that you have the
ability to adjust, the ability

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to pivot, and the ability to
deal with circumstances that

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most people will crumble under.
Once you ask them those

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questions and they see it for
themselves, they come back and

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say, you know what, I am good at
something.

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Irla there are skills today that
that everybody really needs to

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develop regardless of what their
their calling might be.

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I do think so, Andy, and I think
one of them has a lot of

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different terms.
Some people call it emotional

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intelligence, some people call
it soft skills.

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But either way, the ability,
right, to just pay attention to

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people, right?
Sometimes as leaders, one of the

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biggest mistakes we've made is
we try to make mini me's right.

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I'm gonna make, you know, a
young Andy.

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It's like, yeah, that's fine.
But the world already has an

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Andy Grant, right?
How about you just be Andrew,

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right?
And whatever the side of you,

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just let that grow into what it
needs to be.

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And I think the ability to just
listen to people hear what

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they're saying, hear what
they're not saying, right?

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And then help guide them to
whatever it is that you know

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they're looking for.
Do you have any daily habits,

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routines or rituals that have
really helped you kind of kind

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of stay on your path that?
Was a great question, Andy, for

450
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me, I'm big into music, so when
I wake up in the morning, try

451
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,400
not to wake up my wife too much.
But I always play a lot of

452
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,000
positive type music, more up
tempo because I'm not a coffee

453
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,560
drinker.
People like, Oh my gosh, how

454
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,240
could you be in the army 20
years and not drink coffee and

455
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,200
not smoke?
I'm like because I just wanted

456
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,680
self motivation, right?
I wanted to be able to do things

457
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,920
a little bit more naturally.
So that way it wasn't

458
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,640
controlling me, but I could
control it though.

459
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,640
For me it's, you know, morning
devotion, although I might not

460
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,720
do it every night or every
morning, but you know, I do do

461
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,040
something definitely playing
positive music in the morning

462
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,360
just to get, you know, spirits
moving and you know, up tempo.

463
00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,280
I'm hype.
I'm ready to tackle the day and

464
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,080
I and I think what you said,
it's good.

465
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,000
Everybody could benefit from
some type of morning routine

466
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760
regardless of how big or how
small it is.

467
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,640
And the key is what you said.
It's just doing it consistently.

468
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,800
What is your definition of
success?

469
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Wow, great question.
So for me, I believe to honestly

470
00:24:53,600 --> 00:25:00,720
that success is you maximizing
your potential, right to do

471
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,080
something great, not assigned to
a dollar figure, but if a dollar

472
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,520
figure happens out of that,
that's OK too.

473
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,560
But I just think maximizing your
potential to do great things, to

474
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,480
me that's successful.
And I say that when I think

475
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,720
about number twins about to
graduate.

476
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,160
I'm looking at all these
teachers, right?

477
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,800
My kids, there are certain
teachers, they just love,

478
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,800
they're passionate about them.
The average world, they look at

479
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,480
a teacher and say they're not
successful, they're just

480
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,160
teaching.
But the way they inspire, the

481
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,560
way they allow these kids to
grow and feel like they can

482
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,520
conquer the world, to me, that
is success because you maximize

483
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,480
your potential, which is to be
able to develop young minds, to

484
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,120
be able to motivate people and
to have them feel confident in

485
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,040
themselves.
To me, that's success.

486
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,640
Is there one thing that you wish
more men knew?

487
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,240
Yes, the biggest thing that I
wish more men knew is you don't

488
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,800
have to go it alone.
Gosh, Andy, so many of us feel

489
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,440
like, oh man, if I call her
Andy, he's going to take him a

490
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040
wimp.
If I call her Andy, he's going

491
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,840
to think I'm less of a man.
I'm not going to call her Andy.

492
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,000
I'm just going to figure this
out.

493
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,920
And then you don't realize Andy,
man went through the same

494
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,640
problem you went through last
year.

495
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,200
And now Andy can't wait to help
somebody else and say, hey, let

496
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:34,720
me let me tell you about teenage
daughters, right, man, They're

497
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,200
trying to stretch and find
themselves and run faster than

498
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,200
they have to.
But here's what I learned

499
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,320
raising my teenage daughter,
right?

500
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480
I had to give her a little
space, right?

501
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,800
I had to take her on more dates.
And we just talked.

502
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,800
It's not me just drilling into
her, but asking her questions.

503
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,200
And you know, why do you feel
that way?

504
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,600
You know, what are some of your
friends, what some of the

505
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,560
challenge that you're having and
giving them that space?

506
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,800
And we can get that from talking
to other men.

507
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,440
There's no rule book out there
that says men have to figure out

508
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560
on their own or their failures.
It's just not true.

509
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040
The truth of the matter is we're
stronger together.

510
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,120
And the more men we surround
ourselves with that we can have

511
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,680
that honest conversation and
just say, hey, I'm really going

512
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,280
through something.
Can we talk next week?

513
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,760
Absolutely.
Because men are different from

514
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,040
women, right?
They can just, you know, get on

515
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,480
the phone or whatever and just
start the conversation.

516
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,280
For men, sometimes we just need
to go out to dinner.

517
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,280
We need to go baby on the
basketball court.

518
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800
We're not really playing, but
we're really talking while we're

519
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,960
playing, you know, those type of
things.

520
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
And I just think most men just
need to understand you don't

521
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,760
have to tackle every challenge
by yourself.

522
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,800
Yeah, and and 1 tip of this has
been shared in in past multiple

523
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,480
shows, but yeah, men are it's
easier for us to get in the flow

524
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,680
of our heart and the flow of
open communication when we're

525
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,160
doing something else.
So yeah, be it, be it sports, be

526
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,680
it a puzzle, be it just out
walking.

527
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,600
But you know, the the way to
horrify man is to say sit down,

528
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,280
honey, we need to talk and then
sit directly across from him and

529
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240
like, Oh no, yeah, that's panic.
They want to run.

530
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,880
Yeah, we need something else to
do then.

531
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,440
We can relax.
What moment in your career are

532
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,280
you most proud of?
Man, very good question.

533
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:36,800
I think for me it was when my
mentees would come back to me

534
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,840
and say, hey, I just want to let
you know that I got promoted.

535
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,800
I just want you to know that I
was selected for promotion.

536
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,720
I just want you to know that
instead of getting out because

537
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760
things are tough, I reenlisted
and I got the assignment that I

538
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,480
won.
It was just seeing the joy and

539
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:59,160
the success from others.
To me, that was way more

540
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,760
important than any promotion
that I ever received, any award

541
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,040
that I ever received.
It was just those other people

542
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,920
realizing that I wasn't just
blowing smoke right?

543
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,440
Like no, you really are good,
like you really are great.

544
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,480
And if you continue to path keep
finding the right people to

545
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360
surround yourself with, you got
to surprise yourself.

546
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640
And for those individual and
then for them, they've been

547
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,120
found me Andy, like, you know,
in military you move around a

548
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,440
lot and sometimes it's hard to
find people.

549
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920
Like those individuals would
find me.

550
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,200
And the first thing they would
say is you probably don't

551
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,920
Remember Me, but I'm the guy
that used to fall out of

552
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440
formation when we were running.
And you would always encourage

553
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,560
me just just, you know, don't
walk, you know, just follow

554
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,200
behind and just build up your
indoors that way.

555
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Like, and I will remember those
individuals like yeah, I

556
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,880
remember you.
Like tell them what's going on

557
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,800
and just to hear their stories.
You know, they're family men

558
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,760
now.
They're doing great.

559
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Couple of them.
They got ranked way even higher

560
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,560
than when I retired.
And I just told them I'm proud

561
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,880
of them because, you know, my
job was never to keep you below

562
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,000
me, just like any, you know,
real man.

563
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,960
My job is I want you to go
further than me, and then I want

564
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,920
you to go grab somebody like I
grabbed you.

565
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,680
And then that's how we
reciprocate that cycle of

566
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,160
building better men.
You know, that is something that

567
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,760
I certainly did not grow up
hearing from leaders that yeah,

568
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,480
I'm leading you and I want you
to surpass me if I feel like

569
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760
you're almost really talking
about how you talked so highly

570
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,520
about your your daughter's
teachers.

571
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Like so you were always teaching
more than again, traditional

572
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Army leadership as as I would,
you know, my distorted view of

573
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,720
it.
No, you're exactly right.

574
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880
And I think as men, and that's
the other thing we can realize

575
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,960
that it's OK for us to evolve.
A lot of time when I find Andy

576
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,480
is men mimic was they saw when
they were growing up, right.

577
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,120
So if I didn't have a father in
her home, whatever that closest

578
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,280
thing was, negative or positive,
I mimic that because I believe

579
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,880
that's how you do it.
It's not until we get into these

580
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,040
non traditional life patterns
that I call it where you're

581
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,760
introduced to a coach, right,
you're introduced to that wise

582
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,040
neighbor that just comes and
just hey, you know, come cut my

583
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
grass, and then while you're
cutting his grass, he's talking

584
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920
to you there for you question.
Then you're like, man, I get a

585
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480
lot out of just the money from
that guy.

586
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400
Like he drops a lot of Wizards,
right?

587
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:43,160
So I think just being around
other men and then us realizing

588
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,080
that we can evolve.
We're not meant to just be the

589
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,480
same.
That's why life situation always

590
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760
happened to us.
I think instead of us, Andy,

591
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,800
looking at what was me or what's
next, I think the better

592
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,720
question we should ask ourselves
as men is what am I supposed to

593
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440
learn from this?
And then the second question is

594
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,520
what lessons can I remember so
that I can share with somebody

595
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,360
else that may have a similar
situation?

596
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Yeah, those are powerful
questions, and they can be scary

597
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,920
to ask and sit with, you know,
if you really think it's all up

598
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
to you.
But if you have your team, your

599
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,640
accountability, your support,
your mentors, it gives it a much

600
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
safer place to explore.
And what am I missing?

601
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,240
What am I, what should I be
learning?

602
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,880
What I Why does the same thing
keep happening to me?

603
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
So true, so true.
And a lot of times I told me

604
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,920
they're like, I heard what you
were saying, but I'm still in

605
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,320
the same thing for the last
year.

606
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,880
I'm like, So what if they're the
lesson there that you're

607
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,880
skipping over?
You're looking for something

608
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,600
big, and it's really something
small.

609
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,160
And then when they go back and
they think about it and it's

610
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,400
like, Oh my gosh, that's it.
And they figured out on their

611
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880
own, they realize the answer was
there.

612
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,880
The whole time they just kept
telling themselves, Andy, no, it

613
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560
can't be that.
That's too small.

614
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,800
No, that's really it.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's

615
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,200
another trope of of being a guy.
Like I I was always thinking

616
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,760
like each time I had some
business venture or lunched a

617
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:13,960
book, whatever.
Like this is it.

618
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,400
This is the, this is the home
run.

619
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,680
And it, it just never was.
And finally, in like meditation,

620
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
I got like, what's wrong with a
career full of double s and

621
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,360
triples?
Like you don't need a home.

622
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,040
You don't need nothing but home
runs to, to, to be a success in

623
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,360
whatever you're doing.
So yeah, though those small

624
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,760
things, can they, they do
matter.

625
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,880
Love that.
That is so true.

626
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,320
Again, we have to question, OK,
here's the environment I grew up

627
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160
in and yes, the person that I
looked up to in the

628
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,560
neighborhood, they would get
home runs all the time, but I'm

629
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400
just not built to get home runs.
That's just not me.

630
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,560
So I'm more of a base dealer or
I'm more of a defensive player.

631
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,000
Again, find out what you're good
at, maximize that and don't

632
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,920
worry about trying to be the
next, you know, this person or

633
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,320
that person.
Just be you.

634
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Awesome.
Errol, what's the best way for

635
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,200
people to find out all the
things that you're up to?

636
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Thinking to reach me on
Facebook.

637
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Lion Seminars Coaching.
They can find me on a website,

638
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,040
liveseminars.org.
Also on Instagram, Alliance

639
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Seminars, coaching as well.
And we, we were joking before we

640
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,360
really started the show that
there's been a long time coming.

641
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,199
We've had multiple starts and
stops.

642
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,000
I held space.
I knew this would happen.

643
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,520
And I, I really glad that you
you made the time.

644
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,159
And yeah, I'm really, I don't
even know what to say.

645
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,840
Like I can, I can sense your
pride in helping others kind of

646
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080
discover their own pride.
And that that's really cool.

647
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,719
Like I said, I you have a lot of
aspects of leadership that just

648
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,880
aren't that common.
And I, I thank you for doing all

649
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,639
that you do.
No, Andy, thank you for being

650
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,440
patient with me because again,
when I saw your show Tired, I

651
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,920
was like, I want to be on that
show.

652
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080
I got.
It's like when you have a

653
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,480
certain type of things happen in
your life, it's like you can't

654
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,160
just go to the grave with this
stuff.

655
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,360
It's like, man, I need to share
this with others.

656
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,600
I don't know who it'll help,
even if it's just one person.

657
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,080
And that's why I love, love,
love what you're doing because

658
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,400
there's some men that may not
get what there's need to get in

659
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,520
the traditional way, but man,
they come across your podcast

660
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,320
and they go, man, let's do it.
Andy Grant, man, I like the

661
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,040
topics he talks about.
I like to do that.

662
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,920
He's brain.
And then they start looking

663
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080
forward to who's Andy going to
talk to next.

664
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,280
So what you're doing is really
life changing for men and I just

665
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,840
want to encourage you to keep
doing what you're.

666
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Doing, Oh yeah, I've stopped.
And then the life says, no, you

667
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320
can't keep stopping.
So onward and upward.

668
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,680
But yeah, I appreciate making
time for us and appreciate

669
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,040
everyone that's joined us and
listening.

670
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480
Thanks for joining us, everyone.
Please visit realmanfield.org

671
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,720
and see the blog post for this
episode, which will have all the

672
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,240
various links and resources
discussed.

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