Men Finding Their Purpose | Mindset, Fulfillment & Spirituality

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to have the conversation that
most men aren't having, but that

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all men can benefit from, we
remind men that you are a human

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being.
You have the right to experience

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and express all of your
emotions.

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And I believe that everybody has
a mission, a calling a purpose

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to their life and part of the
Great Joy, or frustration of

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life is discovering what that
is.

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I don't recommend my path, which
was multiple suicide attempts

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before.
I finally got that, there must

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be her better way, and it began
doing the inner work.

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Today, we're diving into
purpose, my guest today is men's

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Mentor.
Cooper Heller Cooper is a

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personal trainer nutritionist
and life coach, who helps men

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clarify their purpose, upgrade
their physical health, and

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develop a winning mindset.
Welcome to Rome and field

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Cooper.
Awesome, brother, thank you so

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much for having me.
Yeah, I'm glad to talk to you.

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We just connected recently and I
looked at it.

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Into a little bit of your story
and you almost seem like the

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All-American, high school kid,
you had everything going for

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you, and then you had an accent
that kind of, you know, upended,

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what you thought, your life was
going to be.

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You want to share some of that?
Yeah, for sure.

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So, I grew up in Amarillo,
Texas, very small, Texas town.

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I tell people More Cows Than
People exactly what you think it

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would be.
So, I grew up playing sports all

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throughout middle school and
high school.

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I played football, basketball
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And basically, like you said, I
had everything in my life.

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Perfect.
You know, of course, everyone

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has ups and downs but my life
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would love to have.
And so everything was great.

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Like I said, Sports was my thing
in junior year of high school.

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I actually had a big incident
Deering and offseason.

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I was dead lifting and I ended
up rupturing three discs in my

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lower back.
So once that happened actually,

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it pinched, my nerve, my sciatic
nerve going down my leg and so

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to walk stand up, put any
pressure at all, even just

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holding a book was excruciating
pain, so I couldn't walk for

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about six months.
I got addicted to opioids.

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I gained about 50 pounds of fat.
And during that time I was

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severely depressed.
You know, going back to what you

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said.
I did struggle with Suicidal

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Thoughts during that time as
well.

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And man it was just is a
terrible time.

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But during that time my mindset
was very - initially but I

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realized how important proper
nutrition and training was along

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with a positive mindset during
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So I would not be where I'm at
today if that not had happened.

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And right.
So now bro, my back couldn't

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walk about six months, you're
not period, had some minor

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surgeries also doctor's office
PT visits and I ended up doing a

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ton of research on nutrition
training and even mindset.

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And start implementing those
things in my life.

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And I immediately saw a
difference difference in my

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mood, my day-to-day life is my
lifestyle completely So pretty

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soon, I started have a more
positive outlook on the doctor's

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appointments, the PT, the
therapy, all those things.

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And, you know, basically, I
realized that I can, I can live

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this way, just more positive and
not.

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So down, even though I was in a
down situation, right?

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Right.
Yeah.

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You're not your circumstances?
Absolutely, absolutely.

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So, sort of dialing on my
nutrition and eventually, you

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know, I could walk again.
So I started going to walk

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through on the Block doing what
I could and I lost that 50

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pounds pretty soon.
My friends and family are coming

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to me and saying, you know,
Cooper write me a free play and

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help me out here.
You know, what's the magic trick

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and I would borrow with them a
little bit and say, buy me a

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Chipotle burrito and all right,
you're free plant.

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So that's what started my love
for Fitness Nutrition of

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mindset.
And I started my first company

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Online with finish nutrition
mindsets in college.

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I grew that up actually dropped
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Moved it to my dream city of San
Diego and then about eight

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months ago, that's when I
realized my full purpose was not

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being fulfilled.
Number one, I realized that men

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generally don't have a community
which I know that you're very

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big on as well and being able to
be vulnerable with other men,

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but other men.
That genuinely want to see them

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succeed.
So that is the first step that I

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wanted to fill.
And the second Gap was men, do

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not have a mentor, right?
I mentor to show them how to

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upgrade their mindset, their
lifestyle, their, their health,

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their physique, but also help
them clarify their purpose

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because men, nowadays are just
so lost.

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So, that is where we are today.
Prior to your accident, were you

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doing any sort of mindset work?
What were you like, what?

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You When was the accident, your
first experience with

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depression?
Like how would you been before

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that?
Honestly, I do believe that it

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was my first experience with
severe depression.

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I mean, yeah, I really I think
it really stem from the pain

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just being a pain 24/7.
Just wanting to get out of that

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state of mind while you're going
up.

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But again prior to the accident
was was purpose, was your was

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life goals.
Was that something that you were

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consciously thinking of, or it
almost sounds like you were kind

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of unconsciously competent of
having a great life?

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Yeah, most definitely man.
It wasn't.

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He was something that crossed my
mind.

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You know?
The whole back incident really?

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What sparked my personal
development journey.

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And so, prior to that, I really
didn't think about life.

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Coaching mindset coaching any of
those things of the sort.

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So how important is mindset to
having a purpose-driven

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fulfilling life all men?
It's crucial.

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Absolutely crucial.
Every entrepreneur that is Top

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Dog.
You know, the highest athletes,

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who are Ever, you know, everyone
does mindset work and I didn't

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realize that until I started
doing it.

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So yeah.
It kind of until you have the

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awareness that that my mind is
full of shit.

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Thoughts.
You do you?

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Do you know?
I least I didn't give much

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credit so I thought well this is
what everyone thinks about.

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Yeah.
When when yeah, when I was high

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school and college like my my
world view was that life sucks,

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then you die.
And but I would not, I would

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never think.
Oh, that's negative mindset.

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I thought that was just a fact.
Besides the physical pain of the

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accident.
What was telling you that there

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must be something more.
But there's a great question.

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Honestly, I've always believed
in a higher power.

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But I never truly understood
what my purpose was right.

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And so I do believe that that
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external event happening for my
benefit to align me properly

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with my purpose.
If that makes sense.

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Like, I believe that, that was
divinely orchestrated.

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To help me Define and you know
grow myself my inner work.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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I totally agree.
And I think you mentioned having

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least the Suicidal Thoughts
during this dark time and I'm

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amazed how often I talk to
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And they kind of admit that to
me because I'm open about mine.

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And I think that's one of the,
you know, the greatest stigmas

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Force we still haven't Society
is I find that the best way to

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prevent suicide is by talking
about suicide.

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But When it comes to purpose, do
you do you see purpose as this

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static thing?
Or does your purpose change over

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the course of your life?
I believe that it can change.

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I do believe that it can evolve
in a sense but we defined

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purpose as fulfillment.
As well as.

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You know, see the goal is to
turn your purpose into profit.

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That is the goal, right?
And nowadays, it's very doable

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with online business.
When we first talked to you said

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something that I love.
I wrote it down.

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It is completely possible to
live an amazing fulfilling life

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and do what you love to do.
And when I was miserable, if I

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heard someone say that I'd say
you're full of fucking shit man.

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See how?
And I bet you agree to buy that

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too.
So what do you say to those

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people that are so pessimistic
and down they just don't they

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what you're saying isn't even
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I'll just say you don't know
what you don't know.

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Right?
And you're growing up in my

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town, like, no one owned it
online business.

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Don't even know what that was,
you know, now being here in San

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Diego is very, very tech savvy.
You know, my friends are

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entrepreneurs, it's like that's
a common thing.

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And so if that's not in your
environment, no, that's okay.

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But just, you know, at least try
to open your mind to other

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possibilities.
That life can be amazing.

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And you can literally do what
you want.

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Like, man, I was talking with my
own one of my entrepreneur

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friends and he was telling me
one of his friends.

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Her passion was to braid hair,
and she literally started online

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business teaching women, how to
braid hair, make in, 10 to 20, K

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per month online.
Teaching women, how to braid

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hair?
Well, yeah, but it would take

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that's something that you must
be in person with the really get

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it down, but obviously not.
So it's literally you can do

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anything now.
It is whatever your passion is,

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you know, whatever your purpose
is aligning that with a business

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model.
A service based primarily that

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is the goal, so totally
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So, are there any kind of want
to say, Mel is a simple simple

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or common suggestion, is that to
help someone discover or

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clarify, their purpose.
Absolutely.

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So that is part of our personal
development program.

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A lot of it is that the life
coaching sessions but what I

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would say it comes down to is
honestly a lot of

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self-discovery.
Right.

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Because honestly, like our
purpose.

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It's shown to us and little
hints that sometimes we don't

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see, like, will sometimes like
coincidences maybe like divinely

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orchestrated events that we just
don't put a thumb on it until

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we're like, wow.
Like that was actually there for

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a reason.
So you know coincidences finally

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recorded Events maybe like
childhood events are passions

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like what men love to do as As
children sometimes we can see

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that turn into their purpose
which is really cool.

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You know Talent, natural
abilities and talents everyone

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has talents a natural abilities,
right?

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Yeah.
But one thing that worked for me

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by my coaches recommended this
to me when I was like in my 20s

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and wondering what the hell I
was doing with my life.

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And I recommend it to clients
all the time to.

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Is that people that think I
have?

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No talents is nothing.
I like I'm just miserable.

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Yeah.
Go go back to childhood.

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Like, what did you used to love
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Drawing singing and playing with
Legos, you know where you are.

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You are frustrated, architect or
construction worker, with like

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whatever it might be, but
somewhere along the life,

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everybody has experienced Joy,
right?

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No matter how much traumas are
you, like, there was at least

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one time that you felt good to
be alive, red.

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You know, I think that's our
Natural State but mindset

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teaching Society media.
We can turn this into just these

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self judging Machines of
negativity and repetition.

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Ian, and and misery.
Yeah, absolutely.

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And ideally again.
Well, maybe it takes this Dark

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Night of the soul for everybody,
but, you know, ideally like

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what?
Yeah, maybe that's it.

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Like, people can't, just I'm
doing great but I know I can do

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better.
So I'm going to look for that.

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Like they have to bang
something, you know, we have to

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get that like kick in the nuts
to like wake us up somehow

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absolutely man.
And this is the way that I think

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about it.
I like to think about it as this

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is a little out there.
Only thing about as we are

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souls, you know?
And we have this opportunity to

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come down to earth and take
along and, you know, human form

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where we have, we can
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abandonment, depression,
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I would choose to do it every
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And so, knowing that and kind of
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picture, our lives are so small
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timeline.
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that big picture, it really

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helps to see and like, our
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They're really not that big.

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learn from this?
How can I grow from this?

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That is the whole point.
Go, memorize, just the part

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episode was, what would you tell
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myself at 16 or 22 or Anything
was all the things you're

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worried about, they don't
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even now.
Like, if you look back on the

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things that you are most
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do do any of them really matter
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Absolutely not.
It's amazing.

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mind that like yeah, whatever
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and it's horrible and at least
for me and I think this is true

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for most people that have ever
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We can get trapped of this
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and everything's great.
Sucks.

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so long, even when it's great,

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like I used to believe that the
great times that was the lie and

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pretty soon.
He's going to feel like shit all

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over again, and like I'm not
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Lie of life is good again, but
but it is.

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So I like, I love discovering
that I've been wrong about a lot

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of the beliefs I used to have at
the, you mention that to like

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awareness and be willing to grow
and you don't know what, you

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don't know.
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Absolutely.
I happened to watch this an old

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interview with Bob Proctor
today.

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I do you know him?
I don't.

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Because he's live in San Diego,

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I think, but he died earlier
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He was one of the stars of The

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Secret.
He's been in like personal

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growth and mindset coaching
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But I came across this this
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in and I thought I'd write a
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might pertain to today and it
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have adversity, you aren't
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just flatlining.
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our stories.
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verifies that, you know,
challenges and adversity.

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Make you have to learn things
lean into your dreams and have

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an exciting life.
We aren't just here to bide our

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So is one of the biggest hurdles
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You know, believing that you
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downtown to awareness.
I believe, first off everyone

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has a purpose, but I do believe
that when you're in the constant

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state of just day-to-day life, I
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So what I eat, I go to sleep the
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Most people don't think that
deeply about life, right?

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clarified.
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question would be like if I was
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saying, have you found your
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I would say, do you wake up in
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Excited fulfilled, ready to take
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If they say no 99 times out of
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to do.
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said that, I'm glad to hear it
coming from you to because he

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said, any program without a
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complete.
It can be good, but it's not

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complete.
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law, spirituality is a big deal

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for me.
That's like again after multiple

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suicide attempts.
I finally accepted and started

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to realize that.
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I'm not just this meat suit.
I'm not just random chemicals.

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I'm not just chemical reaction.
There is more to me and that

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more to me is somehow keeping me
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and thousand.
Yeah, but I was not With any

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religion, I was not with raised
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And I thought, I thought not
being raised with religion, made

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me an atheist, remember being
like a Cub Scout had to be,

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there was a merit badge to for
reading the Bible and I like

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protested that you can't make me
do this.

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I'm an atheist.
I don't even know what any of

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those words actually met at the
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But anyway, you know is there is
there something else besides

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awareness and knowing that they
have it is there anything else

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that you wish more men knew when
it came to purpose?

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I would honestly say that it
doesn't matter how big or small

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you believe your purposes but
the only true failure in life is

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not striving for why you're
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But that is truly, the only
failure because you can fail at

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things, but as long as you're
trying, it's not failure.

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And there's a, you know, Yoda,
you know, there is no try,

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there's only do.
And whenever I hear people say,

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you're trying because I see,
like, if we keep saying I'm

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trying, we're lying to ourselves
because we're actually doing it.

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But we're saying we're only
trying or we're not.

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We're only talking, were only
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We aren't doing it and we say,
but I'm trying.

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So I find that usually trying
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form of self-deception, you're
not giving yourself credit for

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what you're doing, or you're
going to, you're bluffing to

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yourself, that you're doing
something.

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When all you His kind of mental
masturbation over at all.

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I love the I love that is there
one particular program or book

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or practice that kind of really
helped you the most?

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Or was a great starting step for
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I would say CBT therapy, I'm a
big advocate for therapy.

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A lot of guys, you know we have
this ego where we don't want

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everyone to to know our secrets
we don't want to be vulnerable.

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Yeah, but therapy it seriously.
Life-changing cool.

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Yeah, I think that and I can
comfortably say this for you.

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Now, like I was somebody like, I
would never, I don't recommend

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any, don't get a coach, who
isn't getting coached.

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Don't don't get a mentor that
hasn't been through there.

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Like don't don't get some of
this wakes up one day like I'm

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good with people.
I'm gonna start doing this but

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you like you've done that in a
work already.

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Absolutely.
Yeah.

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I mean, if I have a mentor at
all times my life right now, I

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have three cool.
Yeah awesome.

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Gibney what any insights into
how to choose a good Mentor?

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How did you know the guys at
your the other women that you're

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dealing with?
Now, are were a good fit for you

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now?
I mean, honestly, I feel like

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goal alignment is crucial.
So making sure that that mentors

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in the place that you want to be
at Right?

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Whether that be business, you
know, if you're looking for a

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business Mentor, obviously, you
want them to know what they're

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doing, right?
If they don't, it's kind of like

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looking for a fat personal
trainer, it just doesn't make

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sense.
So I feel like go alignment,

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making sure that they're in the
place that you went to be up.

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Also, I feel like just
compatible compatibility in

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general, a lot of guys You know
everyone's different men.

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A lot of guys are very like
direct and mentorship.

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Very tight, the masculine energy
whereas the feminine energy is

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more like nurturing and so
depending on your compatibility,

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your personality type, you may
learn better from a more

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nurturing type versus a more
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type.
And I find it's not been good to

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mix that up, like Ivan, I've
intentionally hired coaches that

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I didn't like That like, oh,
there's something, there's

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something, there's something
triggering that they believe

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they have something that I, that
I wish I had more, but there's

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something.
So I'm like, all right, I'm

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going to lean into this.
And I always got like, it was

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like harder lessons but what
valuable stuff when you do that.

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But and also named talking about
men's groups like some I've

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facilitated in person and online
men's groups over the years and

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I always tell guys like don't
just find a group where

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everybody thinks just like you
and it just seems so it's a nice

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really.
It's a good fit because you can

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learn so much about yourself but
people that upset you Absolutely

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don't.
Wouldn't surround myself with a

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dozen guys.
I can't stand but having one or

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two of that, like trigger you
would get under your skin?

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That can be really powerful
thing. 100% cool.

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Well done.
No, you said, part of your goal

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of work with guys is to turn
purpose into profit.

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Do you see purpose is only
aligned with vocation or career?

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I do not.
I do believe that purpose can be

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something that you can fulfill
in the day-to-day life.

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It could even turn into a hobby,
but as long as you are living in

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alignment with your purpose,
that is what brings true

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fulfillment.
What are some of the signs that

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that would tell me that I'm in
alignment with my purpose.

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I would say, I would say waking
up excited.

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Granted everyone has those days.
We're Dragon.

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I get it.
But to have an actual Mission, a

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purpose to fulfill like that
gets me going in the morning

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and, you know, I know that, you
know, you yourself know.

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But every single entrepreneur, I
know, personally, they just they

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wake up and they get with it.
They have a fire under their

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ass, they're going.
It's like that is their purpose.

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And I feel like that is a true
sign of Living in alignment with

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yourself, your authentic self.
Cool?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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This is something that I never
thought I'd be this person, but

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I woke up at 5:30 this morning
on my own.

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Just like, all right, that's
enough, sleep.

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Let's get going.
And I was like, oh crap.

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And like trying to like I didn't
try to force sleep, which is

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something I did for decades, but
I'm like, all right, that's

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enough.
Let's go, let's take the day on.

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And again, I just thought, like
that's not a possibility for me.

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I'm, I thought I was not never
be a morning person.

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I was always a night owl, but
yeah, when you To start your

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day, your day will start earlier
very natural.

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Well Lulu.
Yeah, I mean, I find that a lot

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of people tell themselves
stories, right in and we end up

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believing those stories.
So, if you say you're not a

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morning person over and over,
you're not going to be a morning

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person.
All right.

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Yeah, that that self talk and
that's, you know, part of

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mindset and and awareness.
But the things we tell ourselves

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that that's creating our life.
So once you're aware that, oh,

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I, I keep saying, I'm this type
of person.

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Person.
And it's not what I want to be

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woman.
Stop saying that like flying

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around.
Yeah.

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I wonder what, what man had the
biggest impact on your life.

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Oh, that is a great question.
I would say two.

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I would say first off my father,
I believe that we actually have

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a much better relationship now
than we did growing up, but he

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is an entrepreneur.
He's extremely hard-working

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provides for his family.
I believe he really just showed

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me a good sense of what it means
to be a man and have the

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structure and discipline to push
yourself.

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And provide for your family and
we just that masculine brain.

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So I feel like he was the first
one for me just growing up and

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seeing that.
But I say my second is my first

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Mentor named Zach Colburn.
So I found Zach and I was

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actually in college and he is
what led me to create a my first

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company, mind-body health.
So he got me started on the

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whole online entrepreneurship
side of things.

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And I really got me going down
this journey.

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So cool.
And I wonder, what are you most

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proud of Cooper?
What am I most proud of?

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Honestly meant I would say my
deep relationships.

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Expand on that.
I Like immediately, my mind went

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to the compliments here, I am as
a young guy created to

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six-figure companies.
I'm living the dream life,

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whatever.
But it's like, that's not deep.

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Deep Soul Cooper, he says the
Deep relationships, right?

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Like my relationship with my
little brother.

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He's my best buddy.
He's awesome.

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So just watching him growing up.
Maintaining contact with him,

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keep relationship and my
relationship.

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My partner.
She's absolutely amazing.

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My supportive friends must
support a family.

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So I feel like if everything was
taken away from me, that's the

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one thing that would truly
matter is my deep relationships.

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Oops, that's my problem.
Does deep Soul Cooper still have

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a connection with high school
buddies that you knew prior to

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the accident?
Yeah man.

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So that's a tough question
honestly.

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No.
I mean, I do still human contact

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every once in a while with a few
guys but I feel like as you

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progress in your personal
development Journey, you really

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Branch off from some people and
it's not necessarily a bad

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thing.
It's just, you know, you go, you

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different ways, right?
If you are constantly, putting

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in the work with your mindset,
your personal development, the

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same people used to hang around,
that would gossip and things

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like that.
You just don't want any part.

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I love anymore.
You just don't want to put up

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with it, so I feel like some
people I might come back into

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town and reconnect with them.
Go get a bite to eat, but as the

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most part I wouldn't say so
cool.

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And is there anything that you
are especially looking forward

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to Oh man, so much.
So it's almost overwhelming, but

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I love it.
Christmas is coming up next.

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You know, I'm very excited for
Christmas.

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The New Year's, what's going to
come on for the trilogy method

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2023, very excited for that and
long-term scene where my company

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goes, I'm extremely excited for
we do want to add on quite a

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bit, which is a little bit of
Secret by I can tell you.

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So I wasn't going to say this
but going back to the turning

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the purpose and the Profit.
That is actually a coaching

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program that we want to add into
the company.

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So, once we help men to find
what their purpose is help them,

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level up their mindset, help
them develop their physique

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three months.
We want to turn that proper

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purpose into profit through an
online service based business,

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so that men can get out of the
Rat Race out of this Matrix and

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live the life that they deserve.
Awesome.

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Awesome.
So what's the best way for

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people to get in touch with you?
There, find out all the things

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that you're up to.
Absolutely so Instagram, I'm

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most active At Cooper be Heller.
Again, that's Cooper be Heller.

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And then the company, the
Community page is called the

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trilogy method No, you
mentioned.

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When we chatted before the show,
you talked about this working

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with, you can be an ego trip for
a lot of older guys and you said

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that I want to get this right?
I think you said that wisdom was

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irrespective of age?
Yes, yeah, cool, yeah.

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So what is the experience like,
how do how do how does someone

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in their 40s or 50s?
React to such a successful young

511
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guy that has all these Like
almost like yeah, hard-earned

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life lessons, figured out at a
really young age.

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I would say it is a little bit
of an ego trip.

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Sometimes I would say, you know,
maintaining an open mind is

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crucial, right?
Because you can learn something

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from anyone, but at the end of
the day, you know, it is a very

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immersive process with mindset
coaching life coaching but also

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customized personal training in
the nutrition coaching as well.

519
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So it's a three-month process to
help these men.

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00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,400
Men become Warriors, right?
Help these guys limit alignment

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with their authentic self and
become the guy that they know

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00:29:48,108 --> 00:29:52,900
that they can become awesome.
Well, I'm really excited that we

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connected and I'm Mana.
I'm freaking thrilled.

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That there were guys, like, you
out there, like, people people

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figure this shit out faster and
easier.

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And, you know, not not, not my
way of, you know, trying to end

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my life.
So many times, if we realize,

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like life's worth living like,
you got it.

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Just you seem like a fast
learner, a go-getter.

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And I tell you, you give me hope
that like human beings will

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fucking like figure this shit
out and we'll all be a more

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joyous happy with world.
So I rely on the bottom, my

533
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,700
heart man, I really am impressed
with you and wish you all the

534
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success.
And it really encourage people

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to check out your programs nail
you down and, you know, make

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2023 the best year of your life.
Absolutely, man.

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I really appreciate that.
Thank you.

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So, thanks for joining us.
And thanks everyone for

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listening.
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Follow, like share their
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at real men.
Feel at gmail.com, always glad

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00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,600
to hear from you.
And until next time, perhaps

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until next year, be good to
yourself.