Personal Growth and Spirituality | Clarity, Courage, and Inspired Action

0:01 Hello and welcome to real men. Feel I'm your host author coach and healer. And he Grant please, visit v&e Grant.com to learn more about me, real men, feel encourages men to experience and express all of their emotions. We have the conversations that most men aren't having about that, all men can benefit from as we're still in the early days of the new year of 2023. Ideally, there's a lot of introspection planning hope and possibilities to make this year, you'll create as here, yet. Today's guest is dr. Morgan Nokes a transformational speaker chiropractor and high performance coach whose focus is on men. Elevating their greatness. His tools include an LP, shamanic healing and energy work. He believes in listening to our intuition to take inspired action dr. Morgan Blends ancient wisdom with the tools of modern transformation to bring Synergy to healing and personal growth, welcome to room and feel Morgan food awesome to be here. And yeah, Chris will be on the show at the beginning of the year.

0:56 Yeah, you do lots of different things. Well, that they're not, they're not all that. Different. Actually, it coaching and speaking and chiropractic care and healing. One theme. I see in all that is service is that something that's always been important to you. Not always, you know, I really started off as a mechanical engineer and just got into Excel is good at math and science and I love dirt bikes and racing snowmobiles and and then a few years in I realized like I really I loved my chiropractor was getting a lot of great results. I didn't want to be stuck in a cubicle for the rest of my life doing engineering. Earring. And so that's what got me into Chiropractic. It was until a few years and that I really realized how attached I was to helping people, you know?

1:41 And there's you think about like if a dentist didn't tell you about the toothbrush. What a huge disservice, right? And what I started seeing was there's just so many other ways to, like be of service to people, to really, like, teach them how to fish as opposed to giving them the fish, you know, all the metaphors and analogies. There. And so I didn't I don't think I really stepped into being like service focused or even being a Healer until a few years after being a doctor in a chiropractor. So so you experienced the power of the healing, the gift and then decided, oh, I want to learn this and share it. Absolutely. Yeah, I got into a based on that experience, and and I was also referring like a ton of people to my chiropractor and and so there was a resonance with the profession. But the you know that question about the The, the aspect of service, I didn't really get that till years after I had been in, which is fascinating.

2:35 Yeah, it was. It was it something you just, you didn't know, you were missing it until you experienced it. I think it was Like, you can be a mechanic and be a chiropractor, right? Like here's what the here's the tool. Here's the mechanism. Here's what I'm repairing, and you can really just be. It can just be another task, right? It can just be another tool that you're using and I think that piece of like offering healing and and being of service I don't think those are totally connected and I think that's where we get, you know, doctors that don't have good you know bedside manner or doctors. It really just Across does jerks or, you know, doctors that are doing the piece that benefits their business, but doesn't totally benefit the patient, you know.

3:24 And so I started seeing all these different versions of where, you know, maybe chiropractors that were resistant to referring to Medical Doctors based on this, you know, this artificial boundary that was drawn versus like what's best for the patient. But then I also really saw it for other professions that wouldn't refer to chiropractors based on. Some artificial boundary not what's best for the patient or what the research says. And so, you know, and to be honest, there was a, there was a ceremony, was in this healing ceremony. And I remember just starting to like weep and I cried for quite a long time, just thinking, you know, how do I help heal the world, right?

4:05 And and the next day I was like wow that's not a question I ever really cared about like, I never really cared about healing the world and it there were just these subtle shifts of like, wow. How can I Makes this beer bottle patient. How can I, you know, do the other pieces that are necessary and that's how the practice expanded because, oh well, if I can add in physical therapy to Chiropractic, the results are better. If I can add in nutrition, if I can bring a neuro linguistic programming. So the mindset shifts and actually believes that they can be well and that's how all these other layers of coaching and speaking, and NLP, and shamanic work, and energy, work added. It was like that next level.

4:45 Level it was right in front of me of how I could be of service. That resonated with me. There's a lot of stuff I refer out for but those were the ones that just like how could I not do this? You know, because in my experience with chiropractors, yeah, I've met plenty of that are, you know, just mechanical this do that and you'll feel better. And, and another group that a really spiritual and it's always, that is that more the individual as opposed to the training. It's certainly the individual, you know and with that there's hundreds of Chiropractic techniques and and in school, what I noticed was people big technique a, it's the best and it was almost like supporting your bet, your favorite football team and everybody else sucks. You know, there was that energy and I didn't have that that like my mindset wasn't focused in that way. I didn't come in knowing which team was already the best. And some, like, all of these work, the Curiosity of me is like, why do Them work.

5:43 So I would say, I was a worst car was a worst chiropractor during school because I wasn't hyper focused in one area, but I think what that offered me was coming out of school, I brought in a lot more variety so that I could help a lot more people and and could look at things from a place that wasn't biased. I think I looked at things from a much more open perspective and sometimes you know whether it's for coaching healing you nobody Minds. It Whatever. Sometimes I'm not the best person, you know, and I think my curiosity about how do all the things work, open me up to be a little more flexible in. Like, how do we, how do we get you where you're wanting to go? Not where, how can I push you?

6:27 Where I'm wanting to push you right at you. So, you mentioned this healing experience in this weeping and asking questions you would never asked before. So what got you to that state? What brought you to that event or experience? Well I was going to say who knows but I would say the the thing that kind of pushed me over the edge. So I got out of chiropractic school in 2004, I didn't want to practice like other chiropractors. I wanted to do things my way so I started my own practice and after a year you know I'd run out a loan money like I didn't know if I was going to make it over that first year. Entrepreneurial. Hump and you know, these other things that happen I got Of a four-year relationship. So I described that like a bad country, western song like lost my dog, lost my girl, lost my house, I crashed a truck at the end of that year and then, you know, my chiropractic business. I'm pretty sure it's not going to make it. And so it was like this, like this perfect storm of all these horrible things happening.

7:32 And I think what opened up for me was intuition observing synchronicities? I really started meeting these people. Unlike I had ever met before, you know, I started getting those like power of three out here about it once. Hear about it twice, the third time I'm like, oh I'm supposed to pay attention to this. So I think this perfect storm of all these like difficult life situations like, put a crack in my egg shell and started letting some some different type of light in that I hadn't been aware of before. So was that similar to Chiropractic in that you had your experience of receiving healing energy work and your Kicked in and you want to learn, you know how to do more of that or receive more of that or there were two different angles that happen on that.

8:18 So partially you know I've got these Chiropractic patients face down on the table. And, you know, so I've got time and space to do what comes to me intuitively. So I'd be up behind their back, like moving energy during extraction work. I'd never heard of this seen it right about it, but this intuitive other level of healing came in the The other part of it was I had at least been opened up to kind of these esoteric ideas. So we're going to Barnes and Noble and I was, you know, reading for like eight hours. I was, you know, spending like 12 hours on YouTube, just like any word. I had never heard before, like diving into these rabbit holes, so the combination of those two things and then I think the third thing that was really beneficial, I ended up meeting just enough people that could see and feel energy.

9:10 They knew what? I was going through, they could see what I was doing. And so I had these like friends and mentors to kind of support me with where I was at and moving forward. And that really opened it up. And probably the next thing that was a big mover was I started having these intuitions about traveling through Central America and so learning to being for specific intuitions. I eventually went on that trip and when I was on that trip, that opened up a whole other other level of direction that I moved into, but it was really about falling. Those intuitions and synchronicities and started showing up that time as well. Until that point, were you conscious of your own intuition? Was that a word that you use?

9:57 No, no II was. I was this kid from Wyoming. I was into sports and dirt bikes and and even with Chiropractic there's a very intuitive side of, you know, there's muscle testing and there's all these things that are done. I was like the extreme. Opposite like total research-driven total, you know, can it be proven? And is there data? Yeah, so, like, until I would say this spiritual awakening happen that there was not a part of my life that was any of that. So, in hindsight with you losing everything, what do you, what was the trigger? What was the opening was, it you lost so much that like you gave up trying to be in charge or what do you think it was?

10:38 Yeah, I think there was a crack that was created there and as we're talking about there were all those things that are in motion. And and I would say, the last thing that pushed it over the edge and I just, I don't always share this piece, but the way you're asking the question, necessitates it all those things were happening. All this stuff was opening up and then after the auto accident, after the relationship after, you know, thinking was going to lose the business. I end up meeting this new friend and he's like, yeah. Do you want to do a much? Shroom ceremony. Right? And that I said yes to and that would be the thing that probably opened up the dam. Like all the other stuff was moving before that but after that things really opened up and and shifted from that point. So you following synchronicities listening to your cell, your inner wisdom, more and more.

11:29 And then that was the big action that change things. That was a big action and if I'm being honest like yeah, he gave me a plate of mushrooms. As a doctor, I knew it couldn't kill me as as a guy that had, you know, maybe done mushrooms two or three times. I was like, oh, that's enough to feed a rugby team, but that's going to be my portion. And so it was definitely a heroic dose and it from there things just like I had this insatiable curiosity about all these things. And so that's you know really what was then driving me to Barnes and Noble and YouTube and and Google search. Each has its might.

12:11 So I first discovered energy, working like 2008, and my first training was in 2010 and it was in Colorado. And remember, flying out and being in Boulder Colorado and seeing signs that said, energy, work. And I was like, oh my God, what sort of like mystical places this? I've never seen that before. So I haven't talked about how, you know, there's a time when Chiropractic was seen as very Fringe and now there's a chiropractor. I'm like every street corner and a yoga studio and every street corner and just getting more and more like energy work is being that prevalent to But yeah, do you find that? Absolutely well, and when I had my Spiritual Awakening, because you, and I talked about this earlier, I believe you were in Boulder with with that couple doing the training. I was about an hour north, and for Collins, and it was so awesome.

12:53 Like, I wake up spiritually and all of a sudden there was this thing. It was evenings with extraordinary people that this woman was putting on up here and so like Alan: Sonia. Choquette like Donna, my God, the Donna virtue, the angel woman, like all these, you know, massive spiritual speakers are coming up and doing these speaking events, right? Where I'm living and all of a sudden, I'm like oh this woman I met at the art store is also a shamanic healer. And oh the the guy that I went to for counseling also does dream work and takes people to Peru for medicine ceremonies. Like it was like, it was how I used to describe it. Imagine walking through like a Toy store but you're just looking down at the tile.

13:42 And at a certain point you look up and you're like oh my God, this entire store is filled full of toys, right. Like I just lucked out, I think in many ways and I woke up in a place where there was just a lot of it. So it was super supported and and I do agree like you know even speaking about the medicine stuff. I've been hesitant about that for 15 years because it was very Fringe and I never wanted people to be like oh he's not a good doctor because he's Reckless This with these other things, but the reality is like everybody's talking about medicine. Now, everybody's talking about the benefits of meditation and everybody's, you know, learning about all the benefits of these things that, you know, for thousands of years have worked and we just, you know, thought ourselves to a place where we didn't didn't believe in them.

14:31 Right. So then we struck me that that things that are new age are really ancient and we just rediscovering them and some plenty of the new age. Things that don't really work or are consistent. It's because someone found something ancient and then Twisted the translation or, you know, it's kind of it's half-assed using of some ancient wisdom or tools and stuff. But yeah. So you talked, you mentioned intuition a lot and can you give a definition like how, how would you tell the kid in Wyoming? What intuition is now? I think we all have experiences with his, you know. And so it's that You have the idea that somebody is looking at you and you turn around and make eye contact with them or you like, how what Steve been up to? I haven't talked to that dude in a decade and the phone rings, and of course, it's Steve or, you know, there's just all these things that come in that we we don't really know how we know it but it shows up in our mind anyway, you know, and and and I think a lot of the best business people out there, right? They have a gut instinct or you know, you lie. Even meet somebody and you're like yeah I met them. I got in relationship with them for a few years but you'll remember back to initially meeting them and having that intuition of why you shouldn't move ahead that usually push aside or ignore for whatever whatever reason. So, yeah.

15:53 I think we all have these and, and it's just about how do we, how do we combine a good solid, you know, level of intelligence and common sense but also blend in intuition to really create, you know, synergy Momentum and ease and Grace. Yeah, yeah, I find it a lot of men. They might poopoo away that intuition word, but they will, Oh They'll own their instincts, they loan, I guess know things, you know, insights but somehow that words, you know, the like many words for no real reason that has gotten more of a I guess more of a feminine slant applied to it. Perhaps it makes men not want to own their intuition but yeah that hunch the gut instinct. All those things that yeah, the most successful people Do recognize them.

16:37 Yeah. Well, and, you know, and if we were to be honest about it, I do believe energetic. We both we have masculine and feminine with inside of it, you know, within us. I do believe intuition is more of that magnetic or feminine part of information coming in, you know, and let's talk about the, the toughest, dude, on the Rugby field. He intuitively knows how to be where nobody else is to make that tackle. You know, who the best, you know, Macho. I'm from Colorado, Wyoming kind of Montana area. The best male hunter in the area uses an intuition to know where that animal is going to be at. Like, there's all these things, we can label, is Super Macho masculine activities but the people that are good at it's because they're tapped into something that's not just thought, right?

17:25 It's not just knowledge. Yeah and it's that feeling it sensation that's beyond the five senses, it did then you know, wisdom that knowing the synchronicities and it'll Isn't until you're conscious of them. It's, he's just ignoring poopoo it just think. Oh, I'm lucky or not. Lucky like I, you know, but you know, I come to believe they, can we create our luck? Yeah. And, yeah, and I find that the more I listened to my intuition, the stronger. It go. Yeah, I really had what I'm speaking from stage, I described it as a muscle, right? Whether it's Intuition or courage or whatever it is like when I first started waking up spiritually, I would get that intuitive hits.

18:06 I gotta grab your umbrella and I would ignore it because it's Colorado and it's like 300 days of sunshine out here and then we'll get rained on later that day. And I'm like, oh, it's tiny. But this intuition gave me a hint and and I was doing construction was remodeling a house at that time. And there would be all these hints about what tool I needed or didn't need. And so, I had all these little like you know, who cares? If you have to walk back to the garage two or three times really, but I had all these little ways of really testing and developing Being my intuition. That then, once you do that, I think it's like trust, right? You're not going to give three ice cream Scoops to a kid that can't even keep one ice cream scoop on a cone, right?

18:47 And so as we develop those smaller levels of trust and action then I think the things get bigger and it might turn into an investment or a move across the country or you know, something with with more repercussion. Yeah, I find it especially in the beginning. Being as you're trying to discern discern what your intuition and what's not? I always find my intuition is like the softest voice. Yeah. And and the ego is like you suck. And like the ego, the - talk I have is like loud and clear. And the intuition is soft like almost trying to. Hey, over here. You know, that whispering a shoulder service in. It is a whisper what I wonder, you know, and I don't to be honest, I don't even know how much of this, your listeners know, because you and I had a conversation last year and so I know how intuitive you are and and and for me, I feel like like meditations almost that thing that combines because I need to keep my mind quiet enough that it hears those Whispers, right? Like if I have that inner dialogue going so heavy, there's almost no space and it's like that, quiet friend. You need to be quiet long enough. There needs to be a pause in the conversation for them to to share because I wanted wanted to ask you what are some ways to cultivate or strengthen your intuition. So something we've already hit Tation is one, I think meditations one.

20:08 I also think I think we're asleep of third of Our Lives. You know, if you're sleeping eight hours a night, that's one third of your life. I kind of think that's the most egoic free place for the universe to communicate with us or our ancestors or our higher self or even just our unconscious mind, right? Whatever. I don't have attachment about where that information comes from. And if you think about dreams like Albert Einstein's theory of relativity came from dreams beginning of organic chemistry started their design for the sewing machine. Like there's so many things. So I think first thing in the morning just waking up and and having like some type of dream journaling process is a really great way to let things in. I'm also a big fan of like walks in nature and nature could mean, you know, I used to walk through downtown Seattle. There's not many.

21:00 Being alive things that are but it was about getting outside, you know, no earbuds, no conversation, no dog, no friend, no, you know, no audio book, no podcast. But just open space to allow the universe to, to find that way in so dreams, and simply just being outside walking with, with no set purpose. And I think are a couple of the great ways to let that come in. Yeah, being like, I used to always need background noise loud. Music TV was always on, and now I'm like, I'm fine. Myself driving out for our was like oh and I was like, oh I didn't I didn't, I'm so used to the silence, I forgot it was there, but that's when my intuition could be like loudest and clearest. And yeah, the time in nature and yeah, not not continuing to fill our minds with new input.

21:44 Let's everything. We already know, kind of rise up and be clear to us. Yeah, I, I ended up on this like ten hour road trip, like five hours each Direction a couple months ago and it ended up being for not like the reason I went over there ended up not happening. But the road trip itself was so good. I'm like, I need to go on like one road trip a month, just for Creative space, like it's awesome. Same with the shower, you know, just those spaces where there's room and time and you know, they're open intuition is one way and clarifying. It strengthening is one way, you help people discover their greatness, what are some other keys to someone really creating their best life?

22:27 That is one way and I think I think there's a few different Frameworks I use one is Clarity courage, inspired action, so Clarity is that intuitive? Peace and usually if you ask somebody like yeah, what's the one thing you need to start or stop doing in this area of your life? We all know what that thing is the next piece is building courage. So that you can, you know, take that into action and then the third part of that is, how do you stay in sustainable action? And, you know, I'm a certified high performance coach to make sure I can help people. Keep their energy up. Keep their, you know, their Clarity, their productivity like those really grounded, functional aspects of doing whatever is most important for you, you know? So that's one framework.

23:12 I look at and another framework is past present future, right? Like if our past is guiding us, you mentioned with men like oh if it's called that word, I'm not going to do it because it's not masculine. Like if we can let go of anything from our past. That's you know, you think about parents like I'm Definitely going to do what my parents do. Because I'm a good boy, right? Well, that creates a lack of Freedom. Or if you're like I'm never going to do that thing that my parents did because because I'm a rebel and F them well that also can you know, creates a constraint. So we really need to get free from the past so that we can get super focused in the presence. The only place we can take action, right? So only place, we can experience the good or the bad that life has for us and then how do we, you know, create a plan for the future and some That. How do we want it to fill?

24:01 It might be a dream boards. You know, can be a lot more. Esoteric, but also how do we set goals that actually get us there? So it's not just a wish and a dream, but it's actually Something That We're actively constructing, you know, and then, you know, partnering with Universe to make that as easy and expedient as we can cool. And it may, I love you mentioned Clarity because Clarity was something I used to use as a crutch. Well, I'm not clear on how to do that so I'm not going to do anything. Thing. Yeah, but but I find that like, it's my actions that create Clarity. Yeah, yeah, well I think people and do this is me as well. And I think I've had some friends that, you know, really instilled like ready, fire aim, right? They've instilled, you know, 100% accuracy, on 10 things, is 10 things.

24:50 If you shoot for a c average, on a hundred things, that's 70 things, right? So there was a piece about action and I think people think Clarity is like I need to know every turn, every stop, every pothole between here in Nebraska, for me to drive east and the reality is, you know, I think Clarity is more like a verb. It's an action. Right Clarity happens, one step at a time, no matter how big or small the thing is that we're moving towards. And I also, you know, like that quote from The Alchemist I really believe the universe is conspiring in our favor, but it can't help us unless we take action for Years. I thought I can't meditate. I don't know. It's I'm not going to sit cross-legged on a mountain that's nonsense, you know.

25:33 And so we all have these distorted visions of versions of What something is until we try it. Yeah. And then if I do, I can meditate. Oh no, I actually like it. Oh, it's fun. You know, it brings me benefits. Wow, this is really cool. I'll keep doing it and so that's where I got cleared in what meditation really is and how it can serve me. But you know, time and time again. If I see people that have a spiritual awakening, and they'll just like, I'm just a spiritual being now, and they stop taking action, like, no. We're both like, really A Spiritual Beings here. Having a physical experience you. If you do it, if you try to just do one of the other. I find that you really have a really dysfunctional life totally well. And my one of my biggest spiritual teachers was like, yeah.

26:16 Like, if there's a lack of abundance in life, whether it's bonus of relationships, finances, whatever it is, it's being too. Are in one or the other and I would say, you know, we got like a couple in a car. The man's driving, right? That's the masculine action piece. The woman's the one that will actually ask for and listen to directions, right? And so if they work together, they're going to get places. But if one or the others totally in control like yeah, nothing happens. And so that that Loop of, you know, Clarity, courage, inspired action, which is really just listen. And then step. That also needs to wrap back around the other way because sometimes we'll get clarity. You're not gonna.

26:57 I'm supposed to be this thing and a decade later, the universe has a different plan for you, you know. But you stopped listening and you got so into action was, which may have been the right action at the time but you know, this is an Ever evolving Universe. Like there's a reason there's no more Blockbuster Video right like because the world changes and so I think listening and stepping in equal balance is Is the answer to most of the places that were stuck? Yeah, I totally agree. You know, the one constant in this life is change and when you can get, you know, I'd probably be lying. If I say, I always look forward to change but at least I can be comfortable with change expected.

27:40 Be more resilient in the face of change, because I think when when when you have your Clarity, when you take inspired action, most changes for your benefit. Yeah, yeah. Well it's and I've been working on Lately as well excite. You know, I was in Seattle for a decade, life was good and easy. And I was doing personal growth work and I had growth edges, but it was things were pretty well, taken care of. And I moved back to Colorado like a couple years ago and I'm like, I got to get my income up. I got to get this new business built. And the thing I've really been working on is like, if you and I were going to go on this, this beautiful hike and Colorado 99% of it is just hiking, right?

28:21 Like 1%, Of the actual day is US scanning at that Peak, looking at whatever Vista, it is that we've hiked to and I think we forget about that in life. We want to be somewhere so desperately that we're not enjoying like oh I launched this thing and it didn't work. Let's get curious and figure out why and do it differently or you know I should have as much fun doing the podcast interview as I do with anything positive that may come from it, right? And just how do you enjoy the journey and the experience? Yeah. And you've said multiple Time's it curiosity is so key. And and I used to fall into the Trap of, you know, things are right and wrong. It's good or bad. And like I nailed it or I fucked it up like that.

29:01 There's, you know, there's no curiosity, there's no learning. There is no, growth is no enjoying the journey, which that's really what life's about. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes, I have to really use these like dumb down analogies. Like I loved playing rugby, right? I loved hitting people. I loved football as well. And you know, there's times where I'm like, how this didn't work. I want to get all All distraught. And I'm like, dude, like what would rugby Morgan do, you know? So I also like kind of leaning into a little healthy ego as well, like, you know, or if I want to be the best person in relationship that I possibly can, like you go, actually, I'm the best, you know, fiance her husband on the planet like what would he do?

29:42 You know, and then not get hurt about the the setbacks and the stumbles and the times you get tackled instead of actually tackling somebody else like, yeah, just enjoy those as part of the game. Game and and have it be like yeah cool. You know how I do that is how I do this. And so yeah let's just keep rolling Morgan. I wonder if there's a habit of practice of book that that helped you a lot that you would like others to know about. Well, the book, my favorite book, I just bought it for a nephew, a couple days ago, The Alchemist, but in my lifetime favorite book, I read it like once a year, I always wonder where I'm at in my own Journey, you know. So I think that's a, that's a good one. That just always motivates me as far as a habit. We're all too busy.

30:32 We're all too busy. And when we're too busy, there's no room for inspiration. There's no room for aha's epiphanies. To be honest, there's not even much. Shroom for enjoyment. So you know, if I was to share one thing, it would be find some places to slow down. You know, I've really value my sleep and I've never considered myself a morning person. But months ago I started getting up at 5 a.m. again because it wasn't getting enough nature time and so I would go out to Nature. I get to watch the Stars. Some can I getting fed by the stars and getting fed by Nature, you know? And then I come back to the house and my girlfriend wakes up my fiance. Now I just got engaged and and then we start the rest of our day together, but I'm willing to Lose that hour of sleep to have that quiet space, and that thing that's going to feed me.

31:24 So for everybody, that might be listening. I would say, hey, what's, what's that thing that you already know? Is that know that feeds, you and build that back into your life? Because I do believe those things, strengthen our business, our health, our relationship, you know, career. All all the things that we say are important, that will dump a ton of time towards cross training. For that is usually slowing down and allowing some space, cool. Yeah, especially again we're in January. And I often find, you know, I've never been someone to get caught up in in New Year's resolutions and such but you know, certainly if you're planning and you're making setting goals for the year it's fluid like most things are talking about. So like I do I created a vision board this year and I'll use all January to see is that still out and now it won't just be. Oh no I put up there as to stay there. Like what feels right but moves around what? Oh something.

32:17 If February I find something, I'm really Called to this thing, all right down, goes that picture up. Comes this new thing, and I think that's something that used to make fun of and thought was ridiculous. Like so many of my daily habits are things that I mocked ruthlessly them. Oh, yeah experience. So yeah, I would really invite and encourage people drop the old story. Like I like you, I was like, oh, I was a night owl, I'm not a morning person now. Yeah. I'm without an alarm, I'm waking up, 5:00. 5:30 6:00 a.m. if I sleep till 6:30. That's a late sleeper. Sleep for me. Now, am I? Yeah, what did this happen? I don't know. This is not something I ever was looking for, but it's allowing Life to drive the show instead of the ego. Yeah, yeah.

33:01 And that's all it's a lot of work. I think to let go and that's that past piece, right? Well if I'm going to be macho here's what that means. If I'm going to be whatever and I like just the idea of adopting something that better serves us, you know. I like that statement like do you want to be happy or do you want to be right? You want to be wealthy? Or do you want to be right? Like there's all these things and you know and I think usually if we can let go of those That rigidity, it'll be something that I make. Oh, like literally something I've been resistant to is working with AI in my business, which I have my reasons for and also like I know how it makes things easier and I heard about this AI program yesterday and then it showed up twice today and not like because Facebook's listing or something like that but but it showed up in these very organic ways and I'm like, you know what, like maybe I should take.

33:55 A look at that and in all of our Lives, you know, I think if we can be quiet a little bit will notice that there's been some things have been knocking on our door for a while. And yeah, maybe that's the thing for us or maybe it's a Gateway thing to the next thing that's waiting. So so, so while we're at the dawn of 2023, I wonder if there's anything stand out for you that you are looking forward to. Yeah, honest. Um, I'm redoing systems. You know, I built things a certain way, and Seattle for a decade and got too busy. It was difficult to keep up with. And so I've been kind of down this ramp up phase for the last year and a half. And now I'm like, okay, let's hire a VA. Let's get some better systems.

34:42 I had a podcast are like thirty three episodes in 32 episodes and then I just was overwhelmed and I love having these conversations on either side of the microphone. Just love the podcast conversation. And so I'm like, okay, how do I build up my life so I can reintroduce a podcast. I'm working directly with men now, which is new in the last like three to four months because I think we really need to work and there's so much opportunity for growth and healing for all of us. And then the last thing I've taken all these like magical trips to Central and South America. And I'm taking my first group of men down to Mexico and February. So, I'll get to be teaching what I want to learn, you know, creating what I want to experience and know that only grow from there. So awesome.

35:31 Well, that's a lot to look forward to and be excited for a lot. Yeah, very cool. Very cool. Well, congratulations and wish you nothing but success in all of those and more more. What's the best way for people to reach out to learn more? About everything you're up to probably the best way whether it's on Instagram, Facebook LinkedIn, Dr. Morgan Oaks. AKs. And that's my also my website Dr. Morgan Oaks.com. And I would say, you know if people have a question if people you know need to support, people don't know what the next step is for them. The majority of my conversations were like, hey here's what I might suggest and people go back out to the world and do what they need to. I, I love being a resource and I feel like those are my touch points to create positive change. Even if it isn't a business connection, it's me, you know, supporting somebody else just like Like I've been supported, so awesome.

36:26 Well, thanks for sharing your Insight, your awareness, your growth, and your service and support with others. Because that's what the world needs. More of awesome will do when you and I connect last year, just appreciate your joy and and your honesty and yeah what you're doing is really important so just grateful to be on the show grateful to know you thanks again Morgan. Thanks again for everyone joining and listening to us today wherever you are discovering real men. Feel, Please Subscribe, follow life. Share, do whatever the thing is that you can do on the platform, you're listening, you can reach out to me at all the time. Via email still works real men. Feel at gmail.com love to hear from you and if you want EX for making this the best year of your life so far book, a clarity called me, let's have a conversation. Not a show, just a conversation.

37:10 And until next time, be good to yourself and make it a great year.