The Body and Bank Connection: Authentic Success and Growth

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On paper, I look successful,
successful banker as you would

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call it, bigger goes.
But guess what, in the back end,

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pretty much living in caffeine,
we like she ships on autopilot,

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pretty much being reactive, sort
of like it's all about the

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dopamine and the kind of stuff.
Hello and welcome to Real Man

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Field, where we explore the
evolving pace of masculinity and

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help men lead lives of
authenticity, purpose, and

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power.
I'm your host, Andy Grant, and

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today I'm joined by a man who
knows what it takes to win, not

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just in business, but in life.
Richie and Connor is an

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award-winning author, a former
banker, and current

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transformation coach who helps
high achievers unlock new levels

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of growth, fitness, and personal
mastery.

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From navigating major life
transitions to cultivating daily

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discipline, Richie is all about
building the habits and mindset

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that fuels true success.
Whether you're on the verge of

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burnout or craving A deeper
sense of purpose, you're going

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to find value in this one.
Richie shares the two

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motivations of change, the blind
spots he sees and successful

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men, and explores the body and
bank connection.

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Let's do it.
Hello Richie, and welcome to

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Real Men Field.
Thanks, Andy.

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Thanks for having me.
So I know you've gone from being

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a a successful banker to a
transformation coach.

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So first, what first are you
interested in banking and then

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what triggered the the shift?
That's a very interesting

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question.
I think with banking, I think

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that was easy.
I think it was the money.

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Yeah, I was.
I'm a trade CPA.

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So I think money I think was an
easy motivation at that moment

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in time, being a young kid and
not really sure exactly what you

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want to do, money is always a
good motivation.

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But I think change happens two
ways with the shift from banking

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into into transformation.
What I've found to say, they say

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change happened two ways.
It could be through inspiration

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or desperation.
For me, that shift was more

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around desperation.
So by that I'm looking myself in

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the mirror.
I don't like what I see and what

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I'm talking about.
No liking what I see.

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I'm not talking about the
aesthetics.

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Yes, that too, because I have
put on quite a few pans over the

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months and I think over years, I
think with a neglect, I think

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with busy with the workouts
actually doing, but not like the

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way I did show up when I looked
in the mirror because I did not

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like the way I showed up for my
family.

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I said, you know, like the way I
showed up for my friends and

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loved ones and and I did not
like the way I showed off my

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employers.
And to tell you the truth, Andy,

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I was actually scared and
depressed that moment in time

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because I got health conditions.
I wanted my family at that rate

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that I was going things are not
looking good.

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So it was time for me to make a
shift and for me to do that.

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Being desperate is going back to
drawing board, seeking help and

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but this the help that I was
actually getting the solution

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that was out there was just no
right for me.

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Being busy with my career in
banking and and everything going

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on.
He had a very short window in

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the day and with the PTS of
personal trainers that I reached

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out to at that time, I need to
work around the time which was

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just no right for me.
So I had to work something out.

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So I looked up everything from
both nutrition, PT, metabolic

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conditioning, but I found that
stuff so interesting.

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I went deep into the end up
getting certified and all that

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stuff.
And that's what came out.

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That solution, the same solution
that has helped me being able to

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not only maintain myself and get
healthier, but also help

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hundreds of other people along
the way through that.

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It was never really meant for me
to be a coach.

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It was my mess which came into
pretty much into into my

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message.
And through that, people

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noticing how I was actually
shifting and asking me for help

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to actually help him how to do
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So he was very, very organic in
how it all sort of like turned

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out.
Yeah.

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So it so it sounds like your
personal growth really mirrors

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what you now do with clients.
Absolutely.

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So everything pretty much I
teach has been more about my my

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pain points, some stuff I've
travelled with being a busy, a

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busy professional source to
speak from a banking days and

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how I can actually maintain
health and how the energy what

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you lacked and is filling those
gaps that now I can actually

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articulate that and actually
teach that, but it can actually

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relate to that.
So it could be it could be

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anything related to that.
For the most part, these are

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kind of be burned out, you know,
in a case of like mental health

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kind of struggles you kind of
face as you go through these

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kind of phases.
So I can actually relate to what

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professionals are actually going
through and being able to sort

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of like bridge that gap as you
indicated.

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So pretty much my message
turning into and into my mess,

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my mess turning to my message.
So Richie, I wonder how

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challenging or easy was it for
your identity shift from from

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corporate banker to entrepreneur
and coach?

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To be honest, it wasn't easy.
It wasn't easy.

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It's something that I've, I've
really, I've invested quite a

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lot of money and that for me to
make that shift.

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Having said that, because what
I've found is being in a career,

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being in a job, it was
everything became so easy for

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me.
I was good at what I did saying

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banking in the case, lead
transformation programs.

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But when I came into the
coaching space, it was very,

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very different.
And being entrepreneur, right, I

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had to learn everything about
marketing.

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I never had to do much marketing
in my consulting or on a case of

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like kind of work career.
Whereas you come in being

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entrepreneur, you have to learn
all that kind of stuff because

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you can have the best part on
the marketplace.

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If nobody knows about it,
nobody's going to buy.

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So it's like learning all those
new skills and it takes

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persistence as well in a case of
like going into the marketplace

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and being able to tickle your
message, your message as well.

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What problem are you actually
solving?

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How can people actually relate
to the problem you're solving?

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So you can actually bridge that
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So, so it wasn't, it wasn't
easy, but I guess I think what

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keeps you going is if you are
clear on the purpose and that

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grind, when that promise is
actually very clear as to what

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you're looking to achieve, that
grind I think is easy.

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You can just keep on going.
When you first reached out, you,

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you, you have this, this niche
that that.

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I had not heard him phrase this
way before, But what?

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What is the body and bank
connection?

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All right, that's quite
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I think that's my, it's based on
my book actually, Body and Bank

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Connection.
I think this is goes back to the

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struggle I had because I'll tell
you a story how it all came

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about.
I was talking to my fellow

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bankers.
I was giving a talk and I think

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one of the questions I raised is
what are your thoughts when we

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talk about fitness?
And for the most part the

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answers I normally get, and I
did get the end was like 6 pack.

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You know, at times you might get
an old answer like confidence

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and stuff like that, which is
quite interesting, right?

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And I go like, oh Richie, I do
understand the benefits of

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exercise and fitness, but I just
don't have the time I need to

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put food on the table, right?
Which was quite interesting.

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I was like, that is very, very
interesting because actually

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counter intuitive, right?
Me having been in that

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environment, because guess what?
Studies have shown that when you

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exercise, they're 20% more
productive, right?

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Studies have actually shown when
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that environment, because I was
speaking to ban because my

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fellow ban, because at that
moment in time you are in that

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very stressed environment.
It's very stressful.

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So when you're stressed, guess
what?

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The coastal levels elevated and
what do you need to count to

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that?
You need things like serotonin,

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dopamine to count to that.
And guess what, when you

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exercise, those are sort of like
the benefits you get in case of

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like the happy homeowners,
they're related that they're

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referred to.
We can talk about the cognitive

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function.
When you are in that demanding

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job, you need to be cognitively
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And what's so interesting is
there's a study on BDNFBDNF

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drives neurogenesis, which is a
reproduction of brain cells.

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And what was found is that when
you exercise, BDNF can be

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enhanced as much as threefold 3
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So I was speaking to my Bank of
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I was like, now with all these
facts I just laid down, there's

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more to it, but just these 3
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Are you still saying that
exercise and fitness is an

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option or a necessity?
Because I'm going to think about

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Richie now.
I think it is a necessity.

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But so that was pretty much a
genesis of my book and getting

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to articulate that message.
The body and bank connection,

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yes, body and bank connection
could be in a literal sense as

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how you can level up your bank
account, right?

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Because guess what, we get paid
for the value brings to the

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marketplace.
And as I talked about how you

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can be more productive when you
exercise, guess what that is

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likely going to drive your
productivity then that would

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drive your bank account.
So it could be in a literal

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sense, but it could also be a
metaphor.

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Whatever bank account you're
looking to feel, be it your

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energy bank account, your
productivity bank account, it

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starts with what our bodies, and
that is pretty much what that

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is.
Yeah, that's how it came about.

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So yeah, that's my my book Body
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What are some common
misconceptions in in the high

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achieving men that you might
work with?

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Misconceptions about personal
development or growth.

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Yeah, I, I I think, I think
there could be plenty of in the

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case of misconception, I think
girls, the re exist

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misconception that in the case
of like girls, maybe it's almost

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like a one off, but I think it's
supposed to be a constant.

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I feel like in my case, I'm
growing on a daily basis.

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I call it playing back the tapes
on a daily.

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What is it that I could do
better today looking at today?

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What can I invest into tomorrow?
I look at the key pieces that I

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learned from today that a
positive that I can invest into

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tomorrow.
What are the things that I can

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actually sort of like eliminate.
So yeah, so I think with girls,

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it's not a one off.
We have to keep on going.

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The moment you stop growing is
the moment you start dying.

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So I think that is for me, I
think that is maybe I would say

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maybe one of them.
What are some of the common

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blind spots for someone that has
all the outward signs of success

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in their life?
I think I can, I can tell from

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my own experience with that
because you have a problem.

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I could on paper I look
successful, successful banker as

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you would call it, bigger goes.
But guess what, in the back end,

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pretty much living in caffeine,
be like she ships an autopilot,

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you know, things like that,
pretty much being reactive sort

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of like it's all about the
dopamine and the kind of stuff.

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So it is very, very important to
think in the case of having that

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identity shift and having that
alignment, how is it that that's

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what we're going to talk a lot
about the operator behind say,

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the business or behind whatever
it is that we might see from the

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outside, which could be a
facade, right?

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How is it that we can align the
underlying operator because in

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everything else sort of like
then aligns with everything

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else.
Everything else can just be like

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lovers.
So I think it's all about how is

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it that we show up and how we
show up can it's all about, I

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think for me, I look at it more
about those all three areas,

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right?
In the case of our health, if

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we're not really healthy and we
don't feel right in our body, in

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our energy because what energy
drives execution, we can talk

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about having systems that drive
scale, right?

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So in case of like business, in
case of my located maybe from

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the wealth perspective, but also
relationship relationships

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pretty much through everything,
right.

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So it's all about how is it
realigned in all those kind of

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three areas.
And for me you think that is

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success that we can relate to
the people that actually lift

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this up.
It's not so much about being in

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the room is when we leave the
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What is it that lingers after we
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relationships, in the case of
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it that we'll wake up where we
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PM, right?
Do we have systems in place that

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actually drive scale that we
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that plateau.
So I think those are kind of key

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areas of thing for me that drive
that can have that full spectrum

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success, be it in business and
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Richard, when we first spoke
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banking world being a very
machismo tough guy place, which

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surprised me as a non banker.
That is not, that was not my

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stereotypical view of of
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So I wonder, how has your view
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changed throughout your various
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Yeah, that's a very, very good
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I, I was going through burnout,
I faced it big time.

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much.
And I think as a man as well and

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I keep things like even mental
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about it.
We are meant to just tough it

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out and grit and just keep on
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But what to what expense?
So yeah, for my banking world,

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in my case, my experience was
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meant in the case of show up,
yes, in the case of long hours

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that comes with the territory,
but it's also just about being

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that machismo as you mentioned
in the case of toughing it out,

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if you show your emotions, you
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anything of that perceived as
such, which is just think a sad

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situation.
But I think things are so

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changing a little bit right now.
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that's the reason I think in my
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messaging quite a bit that in
the case of burnout is not a

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badge of honor, right?
We can't be just as effective

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and push things in scale without
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And that's been my mission
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place systems, driving billions
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the operators driving those
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really operating at scale.
So that has been my mission and

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that was been because I was part
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So yes, it's it's very prevalent
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again that awareness as well,
because when you are in that

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culture, you don't because
that's all you know, that's what

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you see.
So it becomes ingrained and

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becomes the normal, but it had
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Beyond burnout and mental
health, is there anything else

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you're seeing men struggle with
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themselves?
Yeah, I think it's, it's, it's

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your openness.
I think, man, I think it's

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something that we're we're we're
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tough it out.
It's just maybe not just the

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banking world, but for the most
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supposed to tough it out.
We're not supposed to open up

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when we're struggling, but then
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the moment we just have that
outlet, we just sort of like

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almost like burst because we've
just been building up for two

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months for too long.
So how is it that we can be able

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to have create open spaces that
we can actually your tickler and

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communicate?
So we appreciate your show,

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Andy, because this is kind of
stuff that man don't really talk

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about openly.
I'm struggling.

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You know, I'm facing this,
right?

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You admitting that or me
admitting that I have a problem

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or I'm struggling with this does
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I think if anything, it shows
strength being able to.

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Yeah, being able to be open
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And only till you admit that I'm
struggling or had a problem

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would you be able to get that
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Because you cannot help somebody
that doesn't need, doesn't want

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to be helped.
Yeah, and men are, well, I'll

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speak for myself.
I've always been great at

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pretending I don't need
anybody's help when that's the

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thing I need the most.
And yeah, I have to get over my

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own freaking bullshit of.
And really that, that, that.

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Perhaps it is that in green
distortion of masculinity that

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says I've got to figure it out
myself, I've got to tough it up.

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But yeah, often the bravest
thing we can ever do is ask for

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help.
Absolutely.

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I can totally relate because
I've been in that boat myself

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and I think that's the reason I
think I'm trying to create as

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much as possible like Operators
Edge is part of that as well.

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In the case of trying to create
that open space where you can,

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people can actually communicate,
you can open.

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This is a safe space, right?
No judgement.

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How is it that we can create
more spaces like this?

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Like what are you creating here,
Andy, talking about things like

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this?
Because then when we open up,

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man, go like, oh, actually I'm
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I'm also having going through
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But I thought I was the only
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And if I open up, I'll be seen
as weak.

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No, it's not weak.
Yeah, that's why being willing

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to be vulnerable, being willing
to share whatever you're going

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through it, it not only helps
you, it helps everybody else

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because it gives other people
that hear that permission to go,

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oh, I don't have to just keep
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Like that guy just spilled his
guts and the world in mend.

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That's that's amazing.
That's not what I thought would

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happen.
Totally.

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And it just a release as well.
We just talked about both laying

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up right that release and the
times speaking and talking about

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something, it just brings about
that clarity as well.

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Richard, what, How do you
measure success in your work

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with clients?
Is it just the scale or how much

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they bench press?
Like what, how?

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How do you know someone is
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I think success for me it's,
it's very personal.

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So each of one of my clients
have got their own goals for me.

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Think that one of the best
definitions I have for success

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is it's almost like a personal
progressive realization of 1's

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own purpose.
So it has to be progressive, it

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has to be a worthy as well.
Maybe I should add there, right?

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Personal progressive realization
of a worthy purpose, right?

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So, and that is again, it's very
it's, it's, it's very personal.

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So one of my clients come
around, this is what I want to

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achieve, right?
Success for them will look very,

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very different.
I the same.

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It has been like even when I was
coaching on the finance side of

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things as well on personal
finances, like I've got some

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clients who will say like, oh,
Richie, this is my financial

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independence number.
I want the other one would go

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like, this is my personal
finance number.

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I want if I can actually have
this money coming in on

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autopilot without me lifting a
finger, I'm financially

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independent.
So it's very, very, it's very,

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very unique to each and every
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So to your question, success is
measured by how is it I can

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bridge that gap that a client
has come to me and they're

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telling me this is my purpose,
this is my goal.

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This is where I want to hit.
And I help them bridge that gap

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because I've always shown
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What do coaches do?
I've always, because the time is

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always this thing about the case
of like, what do a coach do?

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A coach does is pretty much
shorten the distance, shorten

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that time frame.
I looked at it more like, we're

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all given these keys in this
world, right?

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We have this bunch of keys, but
trying to find that right key

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that's going to open the door to
those New Horizons can be quite

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fidgety, might take a little bit
of a while.

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Sometimes what a coach does is
point you to the right key so

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you can open that door and get
there quicker, so you can

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actually go to those New
Horizons.

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So how is it that I can actually
help them, point them to that

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right key and get there quick
enough and achieve what it is

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that you're trying to achieve?
That is success to me.

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Excellent.
Yeah, I like that metaphor.

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I 'cause I, I have been and I
see lots of people that kind of

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just click keys.
I just giant key chains, all

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these keys of all these classics
and programs I've ever taken.

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And then I don't really know
which one to use when I'm faced

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with a, with a challenge,
though, I, I that, that, that

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really, that really resonates
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Richie, is there a book that has
truly changed your life?

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Wow.
Yes, it's actually plenty, but

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if I can pick one and this is an
easy read As a Man Thinketh by

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James Allen.
I've read that book quite a few

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times.
It's it's, it's a classic.

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It's over 100 years old, but it
it, it's just amazing in the

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case of thought process and, and
how thought does drive our

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actions in a lot of ways.
And this just goes back to a lot

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of things that we talked about,
be it mental health and all that

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kind of stuff.
It's our thoughts, right?

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How is it that we can direct
those thoughts to the right

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purpose?
Yeah.

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So, yeah, as a man, think it is
one of my most, most favorite

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books and I read it.
I've read it so many times.

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You know, I in my life I've
found the importance of of

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rituals and and and solid habits
to to to create my best life.

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What is one thing that you do
every day, no matter what?

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Wow, 1st every day, no matter
what, when I wake up, first

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thing is water as they have at
least a half a liter of water

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just to keep stab my metabolism.
This kind of habit that I do

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have.
But for the most part I would

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add on to that.
That is the first thing maybe I

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would do, but then I'll do some
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It just sort of like gets me
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Mobility stuff just takes about
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So I would just do some mobility
stuff then just go into the

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zone.
Yeah.

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But if there's one thing that I
do is, yeah, a water just seems

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to just so mostly just kick
start.

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OK, game time right now before
anything, I only have my coffee.

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I think about 90 minutes after I
awake and at that moment in time

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because my cortisol level is
actually dipping.

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Yeah, but water first.
And I'm, and I'm glad you

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mentioned mobility because so
many guys caught up in the gym

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culture, I'm saying never
working on mobility ever.

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And they just want to get bigger
and bigger and stronger and

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stronger and not necessarily be
able to move.

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That is exactly the problem.
And The thing is, fish as we get

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older, right, mobility is key.
Like if you can tell a time

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somebody's age by the gate,
right?

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So, and that's the reason why
mobility is something that is

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not spoken off enough and
torched enough for me.

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That's just been a game changer.
And it's just been a habit of

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mine that I do on a daily.
I've got a mat, I'll go on

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there, maybe a foam roller, do
some stretching.

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It doesn't take long.
It's only 5 minutes, but it's a

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very, very good habit.
And I'm ever so thankful for it

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because I just feel so much
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I can actually, yeah, I can.
I can run circles around 18 year

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olds and 19 year old so.
Richie, what's What's one thing

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that you wish more men knew?
Wow.

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I, I think it's, well, that's a
good one.

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I would say.
I think that the only

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limitations I think we put is
the limitation to put on

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ourselves.
And I think with, yeah, well,

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with men, we tend to, I feel for
the most part, I, I think that's

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a generic, but I think it's more
about those limiting beliefs

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that we have.
Because I can go back to your

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thoughts as well.
Be it with the struggles that

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we're facing that it is this too
shall pass right?

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Be it with Y direction we want
to take that we're not stuck and

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we're not.
We don't have to be stuck in a

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dead end job that we did not
enjoy and wait till retired then

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up a moment in time we can
actually enjoy.

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Life is that we can pretty much
change the course of our lives

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and take whatever course we
want, and it's all about making

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that decision and change that
identity and anybody can do

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that.
And I find, well, like, I wonder

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if people can you grow so much
that you don't have limiting

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beliefs like that?
Maybe the Dalai Lama doesn't

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have any limiting beliefs, but
but I'm I'm not sure if anyone

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else.
Might I think limiting beliefs

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is part of the it's part of it,
because I think if you don't, if

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you don't sort of like at times
have be it imposter syndrome,

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whatever it is, that's part of
the territory, right.

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It's about doing despite because
whenever new environment you're

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getting in, you will have feel
like an imposter and it's

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normal.
We all impostors to start off

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with anyway in anything right,
because we do not have

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confidence of the gate for the
most part.

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What people stops people, all
those having those limiting

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beliefs is expected to have the
confidence of the gate, but

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confidence is rarely there.
With confidence, it starts with

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what carriage.
And what with carriage, you're

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just jumping in there, feeling
that imposter syndrome feeling,

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having those doubts or just
jumping in there, then guess

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what?
Then you commit.

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Once you commit, then you got
what?

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You start building up the
capabilities.

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Only till you build up the
capabilities do you get to have

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that confidence.
Yeah.

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So those limiting beliefs say
are normal.

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But again, those are the kind of
barriers as well that can

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actually stop us from going
after a purpose of actually what

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it is and test our limits.
Only two would jump in there.

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I've got there's a book.
Feel the fear and do it anyway,

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right?
At times you just have to do

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that.
So Richie, what's the best way

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for people to get in touch with
you and to find out all the

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things that you're offering?
I think the best way to reach me

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is LinkedIn.
I'll respond to all the messages

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I post pretty much almost on a
daily in LinkedIn and that's

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Richie Encounter and just search
on LinkedIn and you'll find me

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there, right?
And we'll have we'll have links

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for Richie's contact info and
such and the show notes for this

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episode.
And Richie, do you see clients

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in person only or do you know
how some have a hybrid system or

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how do you work with people?
It's a bit of a combination.

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For the most part, the fitness
was all online because I started

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doing this.
I still have my banking

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consultancy business and I'm
just at the point of I still go

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South with, with banks right
now.

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So my, my time can be quite
limited.

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I can't really be in the gym to
do that.

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So fitness was pretty much
purely online and he was

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designed as such because he did
fit for busy professionals and

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busy people.
So it works around them as

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opposed to working around a
personal trainer, which was my

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pain, right?
So that worked fine.

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But for the other programs, I do
in person talks as well.

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I do like talks.
I've got corporate training

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programs.
I've got CTG, which is college

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to growth programs, a tool V
program for corporate that is in

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person, but we also have a
virtual version of it.

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Then Operator's Edge, which is a
mastermind for the most part

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online, but we also have, we
can, we also have in person once

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in a while.
But for the most part, yeah,

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it's, it's online that gives the
flexibility I think with digital

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world we're in right now and
having clients all over the

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world as well.
So it just makes it so much

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better that way.
Well.

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Thanks, Richie for making the
time to talk to us today and

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thanks for sharing your your
journey, your growth and how

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using it just to serve others.
This is my favorite sort of man

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to meet.
Somebody's going to be open

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about what he's gone through.
And then I was using it to help

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other people.
So you've got it both.

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So thanks again, and thanks
everyone for listening.

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That was Richie and Connor
bringing powerful insights on

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discipline, growth, and
redefining what it means to

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succeed as a man.
If something in today's

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conversation sparked your
interest or hit a little too

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00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
close to home, take it as a
sign.

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Maybe it's your time to upgrade
your habits, shift your mindset,

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or simply ask yourself, am I
winning in the ways that truly

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matter?
Please reach out to me for a

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complimentary clarity call by
visiting the Andy grit.com Talk

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and we'll explore what's going
on in your life and what you can

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do to make it better.
Until next time, be good to

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yourself.