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I don't see how you can call
your goggles moving to just the

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right place at exactly the right
time and the synchronicity of

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the one paramedic who's trained
and what you needed to survive.

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I mean, I would call those
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Does that resonate for you?
Oh, absolutely, 100%.

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Things do happen for reason.
That's synchronicity, those

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miracles, however you want to
describe it.

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Hello and welcome to Real Men
Field.

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I'm your host, author, coach and
healer, Andy Grant.

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You can visit the and your
grant.com to see how I might be

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of service to you.
We have conversations that most

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men are not having, but that all
men and the women who love them

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can benefit from.
My returning guest today is Nick

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Prefontaine.
Nick is a three times best

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selling author and a top
motivational speaker.

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At age 14, Nick suffered a life
threatening snowboarding

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accident and his parents were
told that he would probably

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never walk, talk or eat again on
his own.

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Today, Nick shares about his
experiences working with me,

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including the changes and
improvements he noticed in his

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life and business following a
life activation.

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We also explore the resistance
that many men have to energy

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work and the side effect of
happiness when you are your

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authentic self.
Let's do it.

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Welcome back to Real Men Feel
Nick.

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Hey, happy to be here, Andy.
I'm I'm looking forward to that.

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So when we first spoke, you were
this is your second appearance

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on Real Men Field.
We first spoke it was episode

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326 came out last November.
And in that we really you shared

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your journey through trauma and
the step system.

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And I'll include a link to that
episode and the show notes for

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this one.
But for a super quick summary,

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Nick shared his amazing story of
surviving a life threatening

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snowboarding accident at age 14
and overcoming massive odds to

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to simply to walk, talk, and eat
again.

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And we discussed his step
system, support, trust, energy,

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and persistence that he used to
recover and now teaches others

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to navigate trauma and life
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Did it feel like I nailed that?
Yeah, yeah, you did.

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And I can give, AI can give like
a 10,000 foot view as well to

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really catch the listeners up to
where we are and like our work

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together.
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thoroughly enthused about it.
I'm excited about it after

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working together with you.
So yeah, it all all goes back to

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a fateful day when I was at ski
club with my friends in 8th

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grade.
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noticed that people were wiping
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However, that didn't slow us
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So we were ready to go.
Got to the top, buckled into my

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snowboard, took a breath of that
crisp winter air and confidently

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charged towards the biggest jump
of the train park with all my

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speed and going up to it, I
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on the snow going up the jump
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balance.
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the jump off balance and I later
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and I wasn't wearing a helmet
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head had was a pair of goggles.
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I later learned that not only
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continue to roll down the
mountain and continue to hit my

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head, my goggles mysteriously
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And then the hospital wanted to
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mountain to rush me to the
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They couldn't because it was too
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in an ambulance and out of the
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only one who could intubate
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that to be able to breathe.
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the paramedics that showed up to
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So those two things that were
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if those two things didn't
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And then the third was at the
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I was out.
I was, I was in a coma, unable

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to communicate with anyone in
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And each time the doctors would,
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in my room was my parents.
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come in to share the not so
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Not so positive news.
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listening knows, when you have
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experience, they can't paint a
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So the doctors would come in to
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And my mom stopped them and she
said no, no, not in front of him

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because she understood that even
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still taking in information.
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outside the room.
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that's when the doctor said that
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I weren't sure how long I was
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wouldn't be able to walk, talk
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And this is the third thing that
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because none of that got through
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It just allowed me to treat it
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And what happened is I was in
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I really don't remember a month
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induced coma.
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transported to a rehab hospital.
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journey of having to learn how
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And it was unknowingly at that
point that I started to use a

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system to not only make a full
recovery, but run out of the

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hospital.
And that's the step system.

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That's what you were referring
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It stands for support, trust,
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And yeah, I'm excited to be
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So I I just wanted to fill in
any gaps there for for anyone

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that was wondering scratching
it, what the heck are they

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talking about?
I appreciate that.

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I don't know if I asked you this
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early teens and you, you
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on on the mountain that day.
Should you have?

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Were you supposed to?
Were you just kind of cocky,

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didn't care?
Did you feel invincible?

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Like what?
Why weren't you fully protected?

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So all those questions, yes, a
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So I I was cocky, I was, I was
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what I was doing.
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mountain, that particular
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I would always wear a helmet.
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the regular hill that was in the
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every day.
I would never wear it then.

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But then whenever I went to
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always wear it.
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anything.
Anything would happen.

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I just, you know, be careful and
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So, and you know, some something
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I don't see how you can call
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right place at exactly the right
time and the synchronicity of

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the one paramedic who's trained
and what you needed to survive.

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I mean, I would call those
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Does that resonate for you?
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Yeah, definitely.
Things do happen for reason.

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That's synchronicity, those
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describe it.
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And then if you you kind of
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that.
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a little under two months.
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running out of the hospital.
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all right, I'm all set.
I can go back to my life.

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There was, you know, there was
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after that.
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outpatient therapy for another
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tutored all summer long in order
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with the rest of my classmates.
I ended up, I graduated high

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school, found my way into real
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license, was working with buyers
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And then in 2014, I started to
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with the marketing of his
properties that he was getting

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non conventionally.
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financing or cash or big
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that more if they knew me not
renewing my real estate license

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in January of 2016, joining him
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And then coming up with a
process that we have to bring

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all these buyers to, to make
sure that they're successful

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when they get to the end of
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going to be able to get their
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That that's what I've really
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And we've been holding events
since 2016 where I've always had

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the opportunity and I've shared
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I think I've always had the
opportunity to tell my story

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from stage to our with events
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So ever since I got out of high
school, I've I've always had

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this voice in the back of my
head that's always been telling

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me, yeah, great, Nick, but what
you really need to be doing is

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telling your story from stage
and helping trauma survivors or

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life challenge survivors through
whatever they're going through

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so that they're able to thrive
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So by telling my story once or
twice a year in our events, I

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always thought it was scratching
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And then it was in 2019 that
someone heard me speak at one of

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our events, the last one before
COVID believe it or not.

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And she, she approached me and
she said I love, I love your

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story.
I'm not looking to steal you

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from your dad.
However, if you're ever looking

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to fine tune your message and
bring it to another level, I can

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introduce you 2 of your coaches
and mentors that have helped me

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get started.
Well, I wasn't ready yet.

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However, I always hung on her
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that voice just kept growing,
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In May of 2021, I finally
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OK, I'm ready, what should I do?
She introduced me to her mentor

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who became my mentor, Tricia
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And from my first call with her,
there's been no voice in the

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back of my head.
So what that's evidence to me of

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is that I'm doing exactly what I
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So I had a call with her.
I told her my goals, what I was

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looking to do and I said, do you
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She said absolutely.
I said, art, what do you think I

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should do?
She said the speaker Salon, you

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commute to New York City for six
weeks in a row and then on the

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6th week you get to work on
stage at the Triad Theatre in

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New York City.
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And then on the 6th week you get
to perform for influencers, 10X

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organizers, event, other event
organizers and planners,

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podcasts, hosts, everything like
that that are looking for

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speakers to book on their, on
their platforms, on their on

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their show, their stages.
So I said yes, she said OK,

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that's 25,000.
So I did that.

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And then halfway through the
speaker salon, she pitched the

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idea of what it would look like
to work with her one-on-one and

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she said she specializes in
helping speakers build out their

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speaker platform.
I didn't even know what that

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was, however, I just knew I
wanted more of her and what we

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what we were building.
So I said yes.

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And as a result of that, now
working with her one-on-one, she

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helped me launch my company,
Common Goal.

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And now I know what build out a
speaker platform means because

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now I'm giving keynote talks 50
and 60 minutes long plus 50 and

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60 minute plus talks to brain
injury associations, other

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organizations that support
individuals that are going

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through trauma.
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If you would have told me that
prior to Trisha, like back in

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2019 that I would be doing that,
I would have told you that you

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weren't, you weren't sync
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That led me to, I've been doing
a lot of podcast guessing and

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that led me to be on your show
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That led to us working together
one-on-one for four different, I

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believe Andy, it was 4 different
sessions.

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And I am really the word, the
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I just feels like so much more
dialed in after our word

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together.
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bit about that and like what
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because everyone is different.
Everyone wonder what they need

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and what their soul needs is is
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Just to help people figure this
out, the Mount Wachusett where

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you had your accident at age 14
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I live now.
And we, we speaking after the

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show and I discovered that you,
you came to Massachusetts and

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you, you, you saw someone from
you'd been doing energy work for

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a while.
So I told you about what, what I

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had.
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four months.
We did a session each month.

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The first one was called the
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And all four are from the modern
mystery School, which I've been

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an initiate and in here with
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They can only be done in person.
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sort of clearing old energy out
of the way and then we literally

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put more light into your
physical body.

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And it's meant to deepen your
connection to your divine

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blueprint to have even more
clarity over your, your mission,

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your purpose, bring you that
dialed in sense that that you

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already said.
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And that that having that opens
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healings, more refinements, more
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You talk about being dialed in.
So what else have you noticed

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from the life activation in
terms of your your business and

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perhaps your personal
relationships?

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Like what?
What else has stood out for you?

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Well, I think the the word and,
and I, I want to, I want to say

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this, that I, I'm learning to
trust myself, my feelings, my

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intuitions, more so than prior
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I think the word is discernment.
The, The thing is, I, I say I'm

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learning to trust myself is I
had, I actually talked with an,

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a coach of mine who's I'm, I'm
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just a, like a fellow, A fellow
person speaker who I've kept in

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touch with over the years.
And I don't know if I share this

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with you.
And it was probably in early

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February.
I have just done some networking

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and reached out to him and the
feedback that he gave me, it

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just didn't, I knew it wasn't
for me.

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Like I discerned myself like,
like, thank you.

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I, you know, I'm kind of going,
I'm kind of going this way, this

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path and the discernment that
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work with you, Andy, that would
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and like threw me into a tizzy
like, Oh, I have to be doing

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this now.
It's just, but now I know like

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the, the discernment that I feel
is is really terrific because I

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mean, yeah, I'm just very, I'm
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Yeah, I I love how happiness is
this amazing side effect from

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strengthening your discernment,
knowing what, what things would

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serve you and what things just
don't connect and and trusting

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that it's a challenge for many
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It was a challenge for me for a
long time that I put more stock

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in the opinions of others than I
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah.
So what from what you're sure

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with me?
I I'm, I'm hearing that, yeah.

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It doesn't matter what someone
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Like, yeah, I know this helps me
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Thanks for your time.
Move on.

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Or yes, I get a huge yes out of
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Let's do that thing.
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Yeah, exactly.
So I think you said notice, have

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I noticed the changes and like,
like what has happened since

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then?
I have talked about the podcast

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guesting.
When I first met you, I was

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doing four or five interviews a
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I've now double my, my guesting
to 10 interviews a month.

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I, I just couldn't be happier
because it's, it's continuing,

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continuing to give me the
platform to be able to share my

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message and tell my story and to
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Awesome.
And one of the things we did, we

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did 2 sessions of something
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And this is a a really ancient
shamanic exercise.

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Anyone that has experienced
trauma and especially anyone

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that's had any sort of near
death experience a coma, a

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portion of our soul can splinter
off and, and flee and hide and

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just out of out of fear, out of
shock.

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And whenever I meet someone
that's had an experience like

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you have, I, I bring this up
because that's who I see the

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biggest impact.
I mean, I think everybody would

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benefit from it.
But if you've had a, a literal

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shock to your system and, and
things are splintered off.

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And I know we did 2 sessions.
My recollection is the second

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one was really hit home and So
what what were your impressions

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of of that that the soul
retrieval?

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I was it was I don't, I don't
know if you remember this, but I

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said after I did it the first
time, I didn't, I didn't

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necessarily say I didn't
verbalize it to you, but I was

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like, I was like kind of feeling
like within myself, like in

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angst within myself, if that
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Like, no, I'm not really my
favorite all the like all the

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sessions and everything.
And I mentioned that the next

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time I came back the next month
that I came back and I mentioned

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that.
And I think you said, well, if

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you're use the word afraid,
like, hey, it could be your,

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like you're, you're afraid to do
that.

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And I, I took that as like a, a
challenge.

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I, I was like, oh, I'm not, I'm
not afraid.

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What do you mean afraid?
And so I, I was like, all right,

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I'm, I'm going to see this
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I've already gone this far.
I've already gone halfway or

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1/4.
I'm not going to like abandon it

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now.
Like I going to see this through

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the what came out as far as that
and some of the insights that

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you share with me.
I, I don't think I've ever

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shared this the waiting room,
like the waiting room at the

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Antezer care unit.
None of my friends could come

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see me in the room at the the
hospital room at the in the ICU.

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However, they were always
relegated to the waiting room.

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And I didn't even have that
conversation with you.

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And you said you were almost, it
was almost like you were picking

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up pieces of me that were on the
chairs in a rectangular,

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circular or square room that was
the waiting room.

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And like picking them up and
then putting them back like into

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me.
And I was, I couldn't believe

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that that you said that I, I
was, I was blown away by that.

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So I was so happy I followed the
process through because I think

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with Howard, I would have, I
would have just stopped and

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like, no, that maybe that's not
for me or whatever and I would

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have missed out on the all the
benefits that I'm getting as a

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result.
Yeah, So often soul retrieval is

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a multiple session sort of
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It, it ends when you, your body,
your soul says that's enough for

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this time.
And during the first one, I

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could tell we're working on
things, but we weren't hitting

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the accident and we had to like
lay some groundwork before those

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pieces would would be willing to
return.

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And it's funny, I I I would not
have remembered that I said that

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you were afraid of it.
I would I in my mind, I was

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like, oh, no, you you have
resistance.

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I'd be gentle.
But so yeah, if if, if saying

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you were afraid is what fired up
your masculinity to say no, I'm

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not Andy, I was telling you
like, great, I'm glad to hear

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that.
So for a soul retrieval that the

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client, you, you just you just
lay down.

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And I don't know if you kind of
you could drifting out of sleep.

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There wasly wasn't anything you
need to do.

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And I do some work and it's
usually a very, very visual

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experience for me, but I, I
don't, it's not like a play by

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play.
So once we were done, we kind of

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talked about what did you feel
and notice?

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And I told you what I felt the
notice.

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What, what I remember the most
is that I got a clear message

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that we're just going to focus
on this number of months to be

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retrieving things back.
And then we spoke after that was

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the exact length of your stay in
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Again, I, I knew you're, I knew
about your accident.

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I didn't know details and the
visuals.

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I had to gather the missing
pieces of you.

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There was a, a snow rake going
down a mountain getting all the

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pieces.
And then we, I, then I was in an

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ambulance, then I was in the ER.
And then now you mentioned I was

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in a waiting room and just
getting all of these pieces from

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all these different people is
what it felt like.

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Like friends of yours carried
the the bits of your soul that

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scattered.
And it was an amazing experience

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of, of love and connected to
this.

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I've, I remember being on the
verge of tears during the

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session for you.
I'm like, I could not pull it

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together.
I like, I can't get lost in my

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experience.
I'm going to be serving Nick.

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Yeah.
So that was again, from my end.

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It was the most powerful soul
retrieval I've been honored to

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be part of.
That side just you bringing up

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these like these memories is
like is the about saying you

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were you were like raking the
mountain Because if you think of

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it from the point of my accident
until early March, I don't have

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any memory of that because it
was it was a coma, partially

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induced coma.
So even though I have my eyes

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open and they said I came out of
my coma, I didn't know.

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So for you to say all those
little things like to collect

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pieces of me from, from the
mountain, from what you Samoan,

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from the ambulance, like in the
ambulance and then into the

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waiting room where all my
friends were, that that was just

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that really hit home with me.
And I was so happy I followed

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this process through with you.
A a common fear is that, well,

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if, if I know I live through
something horrific, like if I

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welcome that back, am I going to
relive it?

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Am I going to experience it?
Right.

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But everything that returns to
you is it's it's clean of any

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trauma.
It it's, it's the highest

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aspects of yourself that again,
just got frightened and and

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splintered away for their own
survival.

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So have you noticed anything
since that session?

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Like the like, I don't know, I
don't, I don't know how like do

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you feel that you're more
together?

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Do you feel full?
Like what?

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What?
What's it been like since that

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for you?
Yeah, so I used to, I used to

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feel like I'll just, I'll use
this example like on the

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weekends, for example, like
going outgoing to have dinner,

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like going, going out and going
to have dinner at a bar or

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something like that.
I used to feel like, OK, I, I

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have to be doing that.
But now I'm like, if I don't

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want any plans, I'm totally OK
just staying at home with my dog

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hanging up, hanging on the
couch.

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I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm
like, I'm OK doing that.

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So it's AI think a calm and like
a knowing within me that that

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I'm like, I'm I'm going to like,
I'm set to to have these

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experiences in my life, whether
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So it's kind of a it's a knowing
and kind of like AI don't know.

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It's, it's really it's really
hard to put into words.

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I'm, I'm, I'm just so happy that
we did it though, because now I

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feel like I have more, even more
to share with the world than I

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had before.
So with that sense, what are you

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desiring, right?
What's what's your deepest

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desire for how to share more of
yourself with the world?

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How, what possible ways does
that show up?

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It might just is it
strengthening what you're

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already doing, or have there
been glimmers of new ideas that

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you haven't explored yet?
So I think prior to doing all of

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these, doing all these sessions
with you, like the life

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activation, the soul retrieval,
everything like that, I, I just

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had in my mind success or not
not success, but where I wanted

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to get to with following my
following this calling and

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following my speaking is OK.
I have to be getting stages and

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every year I've been getting
more and more stages to be able

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to tell my story at different,
different people's events and

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everything, organizations,
events and everything like that.

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Now I realize and, and I've I've
already shared that I've doubled

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the number of interviews guest,
like podcast guest thing.

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I doubled that.
Now I realize it's so much more

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than that.
It's not just stages.

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It's really getting my message
out there to more and more

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people.
And I think podcasting is

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allowing me to do that.
It's allowing me to get my

446
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message out there to more and
more people.

447
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Yeah, that that's kind of
changed my definite my

448
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,480
definition of oh, OK, I have to
be doing it like events.

449
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,920
That's kind of change, if that
makes sense.

450
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,160
Yeah.
So that it's, there's more, it's

451
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,240
more adjustable.
Your mission.

452
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,520
There's a container, but it's
it's pliable.

453
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,200
Yeah, I think what what I was
locked in new before, which is

454
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,120
to say that it has to be
different events with hundreds

455
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:44,360
and hundreds, if not thousands
of people is to say that was

456
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,800
like an ego.
That was an ego thing.

457
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,120
I think I I'm open and receptive
to having the opportunities and

458
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:57,040
those will come.
I understand that because what I

459
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,680
have to share is powerful and
the step system support, trust,

460
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,400
energy and persistence is
powerful.

461
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,920
And it's not just that because
doing podcast guesting and now I

462
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,560
I really everything I do with
it's not just one thing like

463
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920
just speaking or just podcast
guesting.

464
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,120
It's everything that I'm doing.
I'm, I'm meeting people in in

465
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,080
every different form and fashion
of my life.

466
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,560
That really feels more right, if
that makes sense, Whereas I was

467
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,560
locked into OK, I got to be get.
I have to be getting stages and

468
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,360
speaking and and telling my
story on the stage, but doing

469
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,240
this is exactly that.
And that will come.

470
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,240
I understand that.
And again, I'm open and

471
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,640
receptive to those opportunities
coming.

472
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:52,160
I'm not, I'm not shunning that.
However, right now this is what

473
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,760
is giving me fulfillment,
telling my story and being able

474
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,200
to spend time with like you,
like I'm doing here today to

475
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,120
tell my story.
Yeah, I'm having a flashback.

476
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,680
I think it was during the life
activation.

477
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,200
And I don't know if I ever share
this with you, but the notion

478
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,440
that everybody you meet,
everybody you talk to, be it at

479
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,920
a convenience store, be it, you
know, waiting in line for it to

480
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040
get a gas pump, every
communication you have with

481
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760
someone, it is your keynote
address.

482
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're you're you're you're

483
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,800
always on because you're you're
generally being you.

484
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,240
So it's not just something you
save.

485
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,280
Oh, here comes Nick for stage.
No, it's, it's who you are.

486
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,880
It's.
Who I am, yes, it.

487
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,280
It's who I am.
And when you say I'm always on,

488
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,840
it's not that I have to pretend
to be anyone else, because this

489
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,440
is who I am.
So you, you, you mentioned when,

490
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120
when I said that, oh, you're,
you might be afraid of this next

491
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,920
session and that kind of riled
you up and got you ready to go.

492
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,240
What would you say to men,
'cause I do, I still, I serve a

493
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,400
lot more women come to me for
these healings than men.

494
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,800
So what would you say to
skeptical men now that you've

495
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,160
had the experience and you
experienced your own skepticism

496
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,640
as well?
Great question.

497
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,880
I didn't I, I didn't have an
agenda just because I knew we'd

498
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,960
just because we were together
and I, I knew we would we would

499
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,440
be able to get to and share what
was the most important thing.

500
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:24,280
What would I share to people,
men specifically having

501
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,640
resistance?
I would say just just give it a

502
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,360
chance.
What do you have to lose?

503
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,520
Because for me it was, I went
into it working with you and in

504
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,920
the first session and the second
session I was like, I was like,

505
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,080
all right, this is kind of a
cool thing.

506
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Like this is kind of a fun
thing, but then after the second

507
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,320
session, I was like, and I
there's something here, there's

508
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,120
something here.
I have to, I have to continue to

509
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,120
explore this with them because
there, there's really something

510
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,880
here that I'm starting to tap
into.

511
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,400
And I think without giving
myself the opportunity to do

512
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000
that, all would be for naughty,
I guess you could say.

513
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,320
So if anyone's skeptical out
there about working with you and

514
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,000
doing like these life
activations, soul activations,

515
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,200
soul retrieval, I would say so
just give it a chance.

516
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Just give it a chance and see
where it goes.

517
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,480
And once you're in it, it's hard
to walk away from to say like,

518
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,520
Oh no, I'm all set with this.
I, I don't want to improve my

519
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400
life.
I don't want to continue to

520
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,880
evolve an upward spiral.
I feel that they call those, but

521
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,000
I, I don't want that.
I want to stay stuck where I am

522
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,200
in fear and lack and limitation.
So I'd say just give it a chance

523
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,320
and be open to it.
Yeah, very true, very, very

524
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,480
accurate is my.
That's my experience as well.

525
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,160
You know, for, for I, I got into
energy work, I think like 2008

526
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,800
or 9 when I first discovered
like what, what is this stuff?

527
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,920
And, you know, and what I've
learned most since then is that

528
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,200
energy work is much better
experienced than explained.

529
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,880
And men tend to be more logical.
And we decide that it's nonsense

530
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,680
or too woo woo.
And just, yeah, you got to be

531
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,600
willing to open up a little bit.
Try it.

532
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
You know, I always joke that,
you know, there's a misery back

533
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,840
guarantee if if we do something
together and you don't like it,

534
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,040
you can go back to being
miserable.

535
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,960
That's fine, right?
But it actually, if you if you

536
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800
did all the work that you've
done and then tried to be

537
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320
miserable about it, I think it
would, it wouldn't be that easy

538
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,120
actually.
It'd be a challenge, but.

539
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,440
When I, when I, when I met you,
when I was on the show the first

540
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,480
time that I met you and I
learned about the work that

541
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,960
you're doing, I was my, my soul.
I was, I was like, I, I, I need

542
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,520
like I have to this is there's
something here I got to, I have

543
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,680
to explore.
I was, I was almost drawn to

544
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,640
you.
I told you that.

545
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,240
And I was waiting.
I was waiting after for you to

546
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,920
circle back around to me and
reach back out to me and you're

547
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120
like, Oh, you, you should have
sent me a message.

548
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,480
And I was like, no, I, I trusted
what God of the universe had in

549
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,680
store.
I, I appreciate you sharing all

550
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,160
of your experiences doing this
because this is a very personal,

551
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000
private thing.
I think is really being a great

552
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920
service to people because all
the work we're talking about, it

553
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,520
can only be done in person.
And it's, it's, it's not, it's

554
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,800
not me.
This is from the modern mystery

555
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,000
school.
There are practitioners all

556
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040
around the world.
So if anybody is really

557
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440
intrigued and wants to know
more, I, I'm glad to play

558
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,880
matchmaker and find someone
closer to you.

559
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000
Or, or you can come, we can stop
at Mount Wachusett.

560
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,760
You could come see me in
Massachusetts.

561
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240
And so either way is fine.
But I just want to clarify that

562
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,440
for people.
And you know, one more thing I

563
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,640
want to ask you, Nick, with
everything you've experienced

564
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,880
now with being of so much
service and sharing of yourself,

565
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,400
if you could go back and whisper
something in the ear of your 14

566
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,400
year old self just before that
run down the mountain, what

567
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,520
might that be?
Such a good question.

568
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,360
I don't think I've got this
question before.

569
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,320
I would say I don't even I, I
don't even know as if I would, I

570
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800
would say like, 'cause you're
not saying I could, I could

571
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,720
alter.
OK.

572
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,480
I would say that it's going to
be OK.

573
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,040
It's going to be OK.
Has it in fact been more than

574
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,480
OK?
Yeah, absolutely.

575
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,040
OK.
I was going to, I was going to

576
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080
continue well after I said that,
but then I was like, I don't

577
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
think anything else is needed.
I was, I was going, I was going

578
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,960
to say like not you're about to
go through something, but slow

579
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,680
down.
Not then in that moment, 'cause

580
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,720
I was like high octane ready to
go, but just for later, like for

581
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,400
the accident and like the life
after the accident like that.

582
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400
That's kind of how I interpreted
that question.

583
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:10,120
So I would say just slow down,
make sure you're doing

584
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,760
everything properly and you'll
get there.

585
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,440
Just keep going.
Nick, is there?

586
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,520
Is there one thing top of mind
that you wish more men knew?

587
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,840
I think what's out there ain't
communicated with us to men,

588
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:30,320
that is since childhood is it's
not right for everyone.

589
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,280
Everyone, everyone's different
and that's completely OK.

590
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:41,199
I just think too many people
will will grow up a certain way

591
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,000
and then think I have to be that
way and.

592
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,400
And Nick, what's the best way
for people to connect with you?

593
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:53,520
OK, so a few things the while we
went over and you you referred

594
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:59,160
to the previous show I was on
where I went into depth on the

595
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:02,720
the step system and even that
was only a 10,000 foot view.

596
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:09,760
However, if my anything about my
story and the step system really

597
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,880
like piqued your interest and
you felt drawn to it, check out

598
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,120
Nick prefontaine.com forward
slash step and you're going to

599
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,320
be able to download the entire
step system for free, which

600
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,840
teaches you all about support,
trust, energy and persistence.

601
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,920
Nick, it's been a pleasure
seeing you in person, knowing

602
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,880
you over the four months of
working together, checking in

603
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,320
via emails and calls.
And yeah, I've, I'm going to say

604
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,440
this.
I wish I could take a picture of

605
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,760
what I see working on people in
my head and what's presented

606
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,680
because like you, you were
already a shining example of a

607
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,080
man being of service, of someone
that took their experience, made

608
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,240
the best out of it, and continue
to make the even better and

609
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:02,800
better out of it.
And as you said, there's just, I

610
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,640
could tell that there was more
And I, I don't know what the

611
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,040
more is going to be, but it's
going to show itself to you

612
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160
because you keep stepping
forward, you keep listening to

613
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,520
yourself, you keep honoring your
discernment.

614
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360
So I'm excited, I'm still
excited for you.

615
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,640
I'm excited to see what, what's
next.

616
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,160
I'm excited to see the, you
know, the version of Nick 20

617
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,160
years from now and, and just all
of it.

618
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,840
So again, thanks so much for
sharing your your experience

619
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,000
that you share often your your
life journey and also sharing

620
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,320
your really private experience
that you had working with me.

621
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,720
You're very welcome.
And I think because I share my,

622
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,680
like you said, it's, I'm always
on, it's, it's, it's all of me.

623
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:51,880
And that's what I'm sharing.
That may be why I'm so open and

624
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,080
vulnerable to share my very
private experience working with

625
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,040
you one-on-one is because this
is what I'm doing.

626
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,280
I'm I'm sharing my experience
with the world, be it what's

627
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,160
happening now or what happened
20 years ago.

628
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,120
I think more people need to
know.

629
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Thanks for joining us today.
Please visit realmanfield.org

630
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,640
and see the blog post for this
episode where she'll have all

631
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,200
the various links and resources
discussed.

632
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,400
If you are intrigued about life
activation, full spirit

633
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,480
activation, or soul retrieval,
please reach out to me.

634
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,720
Visit theandygrant.com.
And as I said in the show, all

635
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,720
of this work can only be done in
person.

636
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,240
And if you aren't near me, if
you can't come to Massachusetts

637
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:38,880
and are interested, I will work
with you to find someone where

638
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,040
you live that can offer these
vet services to help your growth

639
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,520
and life.
That's how important this work

640
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,960
is.
I don't care who you do it with,

641
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:51,480
I just want you to do it.
Until next time, be good to

642
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:51,840
yourself.