The Scent of Emotional Wellness: Essential Oils for Men

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Hello and welcome to Real Men
Feel, the podcast that reminds

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men that they're human beings
with access to the full range of

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emotions.
I'm your host, Andy Grant.

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Today we're exploring a powerful
yet often overlooked tool from

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mental and emotional Wellness,
essential oils.

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My guest is Corrine El Kazaza
and an international best

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selling author, essential oils
coach and cards deck creator.

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Corrine blends ancient wisdom,
modern science, and the magic of

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scent to help people shift their
mood, boost creativity, and

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connect more deeply with
themselves and the divine.

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If you've ever wondered whether
a better state of mind could

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just be a smell away, this
episode is for you.

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Let's do it.
Hello Karine, and welcome to

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REAL Men Feel.
Hi Andy.

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Thanks for having me.
I should say that yeah, we've

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known each other for many years
and been in different programs

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and groups and adventures and
went well, you live in Florida

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now, used to live in
Massachusetts and you were like

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always willing to be like
whenever I had something new and

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my energy bag of tricks you
would like.

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Yeah, I'll try that.
So I always appreciated that.

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But you're here to talk about
essential oils and mental

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health.
That's.

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Right.
So let's start at the start and

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tell me what like what are
essential oils?

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So essential oils come from
different parts of the plant and

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depending on what part of the
plant they're from, they have

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different functions.
So like a citrus oil is really,

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think about it orange, like it
raises its face to the sun and

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that's what it does.
It raises your mood.

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If you have something that comes
from the roots of a plant, like

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a tree, it's going to ground
you.

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So exactly what it does in the
plant it does for your body, and

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it also brings homeostasis to
the body so it knows where to

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put you exactly.
So is that true like any if I

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take the root of any plant it'll
ground me?

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Or is it just specific plants
have have their best abilities?

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Yeah, I would say it's stacked
my specific plants.

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OK.
All right.

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And and how did you begin
working with with essential

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oils?
I met someone who was working

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with oils and I really, I really
liked her energy and I really

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liked what she had to say.
And I have always really liked

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natural solutions.
So I started working with her

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and I was in the gym, right?
And I was not happy with my

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results.
And so we did a little weight

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management with essential oils
and I started using some Yarrow

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palm, which is not an oil for
weight loss.

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OK, It's a, it's an oil for
balancing hormones.

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And sometimes when you balance
your hormones, especially for

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women, the result is weight
loss.

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And that's what happened for me.
But you know me, I've been in

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the gym for a long time.
And when I put that oil in me or

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on me, I immediately felt it
like digesting my food, like it

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was ripping through my food like
it had when I was in my 20s.

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Like I knew that feeling.
And I was like I this works.

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And So what?
What is aromatherapy?

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Is that the same as essential
oils or is it somehow different?

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So aromatherapy used as
essential oils.

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So basically you're inhaling the
oil, smelling the oil, and it

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raises your mood.
So you can smell it right out of

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the bottle.
You can put it on a cotton ball

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and smell it.
You can rub it on your hands and

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smell it, or you can use a
diffuser.

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So that puts it in the air.
So basically you're putting

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water in essential oil in a
machine and it's going to make

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vapor in the air.
So that's a really good way to

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get stream of oil that's
consistent and constant, so that

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keeps you in that energy.
Is there one ideal way to use

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essential oils or is it
different for everybody and

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every purpose?
It depends on the person and

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what you want to do.
I mean really every oil has an

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emotional component.
So if you know what the

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emotional component is and what
it can do that you can get into

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literally any state that you
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So there's a good guide called
sensual emotions.

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I think they're on the 13th
edition now.

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And it will tell you every oil,
what the oil is for, right?

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And so that's so it comes with
this handy dandy, what I call

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the wheel of emotions.
And it's, it's literally a wheel

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and it goes around like it has
peaceful and then it has like 8

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different flavors of peaceful.
So if you want to feel some kind

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of peaceful, you look at that
and you go, oh, balance.

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OK, I want to feel balance
today.

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So I'm going to use some balance
oil.

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Essential oils are all actually
made.

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It's not like you you go to the
the local chemist and he concoct

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something.
Well, now there's there's a

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question, right?
So the oils that I use are

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doTerra and they're very pure
and very tested.

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And in fact, we're the only
company that will let you

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actually go and look at the
label and see that they've all

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been tested.
They're tested by a third party.

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So those aren't really the only
oils I use.

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And you could go to Walmart,
right?

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You're not going to get the same
quality.

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And some of those could be
flammable even.

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And you know, essential oils
should not be flammable.

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They're safe.
One of the first things that you

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learn about essential oils is
that they're volatile, which

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means they change states
quickly.

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That means basically that they
evaporate, right?

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So when you take one or you put
it on your body, on your skin,

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it's the largest organ of your
body or you can adjust it even.

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It's going to evaporate.
So it's not going to build up in

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your body.
It's not.

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You're not going to have side
effects.

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That's why you can't dose a lot
because there are no side

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effects.
And how do essential oils

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influence our emotions and mood
so quickly?

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So the nose is an extension of
the limbic brain.

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The limbic brain manages memory,
emotions and behavior.

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So think about like if you are
walking down the street and you

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smell apple pie and all of a
sudden you're instantly

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transported to your
grandmother's kitchen when

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you're 8 years old and she baked
you an apple pie.

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That's why because that aroma
elicited that emotion and that

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memory.
And so that's the way essential

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oils were too.
Like if you smell lavender, it's

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really relaxing when you smell
it and it's just like a big

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breath of and it just goes right
to your neurology and, and you

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can feel it it it's so fenced.
My sense of smell is like the

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weakest of all my senses and so
does that matter?

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Do I?
If I can't smell and like label

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something, does it?
Does it matter for my use of

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this?
It will.

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It will do its job anyway.
So how can we use essential oils

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to manage stress, anxiety,
overwhelm?

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There aren't specific oils for
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So the first one I would talk
about is Deep Blue.

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That is the oil of surrender, a
pain that could be mental,

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emotional, physical pain.
So if someone is resisting

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painful emotions, this will help
them get through that and help

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them transform those emotions.
So that's really a good place to

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start.
Plus for men especially, I

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thought that the gateway oil,
because it really works.

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Like usually the way that men
stumble onto this is that

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they're sore from the gym or
that, you know, they're just

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sore and they put this on their
muscles and it works.

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And so then they they are like,
oh, you know, this stuff really

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works.
So then they're open to trying

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other things.
Is there a plant called Deep

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Blue or is this sort of a mix of
other things?

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Yeah.
So there's a blend of different

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oils.
It it has canned for peppermint,

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so it's really minty and cool
when you put it on.

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It also has winter green.
It has osmanthus, which is the

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oil of gentleness.
So it it's a different blend as

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proprietary to the tariff, Yeah.
Oh, so I was going to ask, you

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know, I think most guys here
essential oils and might just

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tune out, but so you come at
them for the the physical

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benefit, you attach it to the
gym and that's kind of the hook.

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There's so many ways to use it.
Does the effect vary depending

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on the way you use it?
B Like I'm the queen of ruler

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balls.
So you put the oil in a roller

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ball and there are different
places to use it on your body

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for different effects.
Like if you got to use it.

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Typically I will use it from my
wrist to the crook of my elbow

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because that's the place.
For some reason it raises your

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mood the fastest.
Also, it's easy to smell right?

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If you want protection, the area
around your belly button, if you

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want protection, or if you need
stronger boundaries.

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You want to speak your truth.
It's your throat chakra.

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You want your intuition, your
third eye.

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You want your your heartfelt
wisdom, your heart chakra.

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And then if there isn't foil
that you do not care for the

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smell of like, I'll tell you
helipress something that's a

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little earthy.
So is Spike Nard, which is the

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oil of gratitude.
So it's a great oil to use.

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But if you don't like the smell
of it, you can put it on the

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soles of your feet or you can
have someone run it up and down

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your spine And the rolling ball,
which is really actually, those

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two ways are really good for
kids too.

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If you want to get some oil on
kids and they're not really

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grooving on the smell of it.
I found that interesting that

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you cannot appreciate the smell
of it but still find ways to get

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benefit from that that oil.
Yeah.

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And then actually I find like
those two oils I just mentioned,

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over time, like you get to like
the smell of it.

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You can you just get used to it.
And that's another thing, like

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when you first start to use
these oils, they're all natural

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and we are so used to synthetic
everything, right, that they're

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going to smell weird.
And then after a while you get

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used to it and you're like, oh,
this smells really good.

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And then when you smell
something synthetic, you're

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like, no, no, you can really
tell the difference.

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Is there any sort of safety
concerns of an oil interacting

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with the medicine or something
else someone's putting on their

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skin?
Anything like that?

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Use birds if you're using a
blood thinner.

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But really there are very, very
few contraindications for oils

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that, like I said, they're,
they're safe and natural and

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they evaporate.
So they're not really, they're

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not too many contraindications.
I will say if you use a citrus

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oil, it's photosensitive, like
here in Florida, you don't want

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to put on a citrus oil and go
out in the sun.

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You could get burnt, you know.
So just a couple things to be

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aware of.
There are some fat oils like

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cinnamon and peppermint that you
don't want to use like around

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your eyes because they could
brown you.

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And and 01 interesting thing is
the charge essential oil makes

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it sound like there's fat in it,
right?

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There's not, There's no fat in
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If you take like frankincense or
lavender and put it on you, it's

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not going to stain your clothes.
It's not going to stain your

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linens or your sheets.
It's when you mix it with a

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carrier oil, like fractionated
coconut oil is what's typically

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used and fractionated, it's just
a fancy way to say they took out

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the smell of the coconut.
But then once you mix the oil

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with the FCO fractionated
coconut oil, there's fat in it.

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So yeah, it's going to stain
your clothes and it's going to

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stain your sheets.
So you need to be aware of that.

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And how do you use oils?
How do you use oils during your

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your writing and creative work?
To use Clary sage a lot, it's

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the oil of clear clarity and
vision.

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So I use that when I'm stuck in
a clock tangle.

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So I will inhale that.
But before I start it's usually

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sandalwood, which is really good
for meditation.

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And what is it's the oil of
devotion.

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But it it's also really good,
like if you have someone has

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PTSD and they have images that
keep coming up in their head,

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they can use this and get rid of
those images.

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Like I've had a friend who a
family dog attacked one of her

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kids, went right for its throat
and everyone was fine.

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But she kept seeing that image
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So she started using sample wood
and it really worked and she

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didn't have those visions
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Very.
Cool.

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So essential lawyers aren't just
for kind of to avoid things or

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deal with negative emotions,
they can actually enhance things

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like your your creativity, your
clarity.

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Yeah, I mean, like I said, any
kind of mood that you want to

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get into, you can get into with
oils and and it's like we

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already said, it's instant and
you could do it anywhere.

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You know, on the soccer field,
at school, at work.

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I have in fact left a corporate
environment and gone into the

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ladies room and smelt some
lavender and came back to the

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meeting in a much better mood.
So you really can do it

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anywhere.
And you, you talked about how it

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it evaporates quickly.
Now does that mean you really

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got to be careful opening a
bottle or it would just

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evaporate if you left it open or
things like that?

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Well.
No, you should keep it open, but

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you're not evaporate that
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And are essential oils and
aromatherapy sort of a new

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endeavour or has this been
around for a while?

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So Abby, since you know me, you
know I love Egypt, right?

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So the, the ancient Egyptians
were using aromatherapy way back

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when because they knew that oils
have an effect on the body

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physically and emotionally.
So they used them, you know, in

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in bombs for the face and, and
rituals and ceremonies.

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And so it took till I think of
the term aroma Derby was coined

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in the 1990s.
So it took modern science that

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long to catch up with ancient
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And did you get into essential
oils first or Egyptology?

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Egyptology.
OK, so that was your gateway

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culture into essential oils?
Yeah, I mean, I remember being

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at the perfumery in Egypt.
It was.

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It was pretty cool.
Do you help people match oils to

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to moods and to goals and and
things they're dealing with?

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Yeah, I mean, someone can come
to me for a little overview and

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we could talk about what's going
on for them.

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And I can recommend some things
that it's definitely something

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that I do a little Wellness
check with people and see what's

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going on.
And is there anything that

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you've tried that beyond the
smell, not liking it, but did

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it?
Did you have a reaction?

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They're like, oh, I'm not using
that again.

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Or could would something be
like, did it give you so much of

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something that was more than you
wanted, say?

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That didn't say that once I, I
had a I'm I'm very, very, very

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allergic to cats.
And I went to a place where I

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didn't know there was a cat and
I came out of there and I was

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like, what is going on with me?
And my friend was like, well,

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there were two cats there.
I was like, oh, and I

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immediately took what's called
trius.

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It's peppermint, lavender and
lemon.

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And I took it and it was just
gone.

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So wow it.
Didn't make the cats disappear,

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it made your symptoms disappear.
Well, since this is real men

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feel, what is one thing that you
wish more men knew?

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The effects of essential oils on
their emotions.

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Yeah, I mean, really to be in a
good mood, to be in a happy

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place.
I mean, I'm always sit in front

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of my desk right now, which is
where I write, and I have a full

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array of oils in front of me, so
they really do work.

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And if if you have put essential
oils on yourself, is the smell

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so strong that other people will
notice it as well?

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Yes, yeah, they're going to
notice.

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It all right, so guys will have
to be such a fan of how some

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what something does for them
that they're willing to smell

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like that out in public.
Well, well, so yeah, but like,

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balance oil is an A grounding
oil and it has spruce in it.

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Like the first oil is spruce.
So it smells like men's Cologne.

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Like I actually love it.
And it's something that grounds

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you and makes you connect to
people.

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Like it's a great oil for
emotional balance.

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And that's, I think that's what
most people would like,

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especially if a guy can't name
what he's feeling or dealing

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with.
Balance is an easy thing to to

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go after then.
Yeah.

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I mean, that's a great starting
point.

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We also have an oil called
Serenity that's really good for

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before bed.
And the combination of those

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Balance and Serenity and equal
parts is they call it liquid

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Xanax because it really calms
you down.

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So that's a good place to start
too.

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Nice Karine, what's the best way
for people to learn more about

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all of this and connect with you
so?

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I have my Oil Alchemy Korean
Education page on Facebook or

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they can write to me directly at
korean@egyptianoiloracle.com.

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Awesome.
Well, Karine, thanks so much for

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sharing your expertise.
This is definitely a, this is

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more talk about essential oils
than I've ever had in my life.

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I said my my own sense of Snell
not being great has made me not

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really dive into that world.
But your enthusiasm for it might

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have me rekindle and go start
smelling things.

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Yeah.
I definitely recommend it.

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Thanks so much to Karine Kazaza
for joining me today.

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I've always said that
transformation doesn't have to

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be hard, and this conversation
proves that even something as

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simple as a deep inhale can
change how we feel.

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If you're curious about
exploring oil, start with

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Korean's Oil Alchemy Facebook
group or her site, Egyptian Oil

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oracle.com.
If this conversation sparked

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something in you or you just
want to smell better, be sure to

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share this episode with someone
who could use more calm,

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clarity, or connection in their
life.

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And men, if you're seeking more
grounded, real connection with

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yourself and others, join me in
the authentic AF community at

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realmenfeel.org/group.
Until next time, be good to

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yourself.